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Lance:

I was in Appleton, Wisconsin for the last Packer game and Ephraim, Wisconsin for the prior one. Since the Packers played out of town the prior week, I got to observe all televisions tuned into the game and everytime a play went the Packers way, I would here a roar within the hotel. Last week when we stayed in Appleton it was a challenge to get a hotel room. When the Packers play at home, all rooms are booked for a 30-40 mile radius.

While Dallas backed the Cowboys in the past, it really doesn't match the entire state of Wisconsin backing the Packers.

10/05/21 03:21 PM

#22422

David:

Just wondering, do you feel UTD deserves to be so highly ranked in its MBA program? Since I got my MBA from SMU and it was highly ranked for many years, I was never able to reconcile its ranking with what I understood of the program.

I've always wanted to survey all of the US universities and document their claims to have top 20 programs in various areas. Then I wanted to add up the numbers. My guess was the number of Top 20 programs would well exceed 100 in each area. But each university is fervent in claiming its status.

10/05/21 03:52 PM

#22423

I was just hearing on our local KLBJ radio station that Merrick Garland is insisting that local parents who are voicing their opinions at their local school board meetings, will not be allowed to be too demanding or confrontational with the board presidents, about what they want their children to be taught. Evidently, Garland will send down this way, DOJ edicts or possibly FBI patroling agents to enter into the fray, since we local people's ideas and desires are to be hushed up. Just because there have been a few incidents of parents getting a bit too heated in their discussions, it seems school board chairmen can't take the heat or maintain decorum well enough, even when local police are called in to escort certain hotheads out of the meetings. It seems to me that the local police have been doing very well at maintaining peace, and cooling down some folks who get too loud, but that is not enough for AG Garland. Garland is saying that HE will make sure that teachers are able to teach anything that Washington DC liberals deem to be appropriate, when it comes to certain past history lessons THEY feel MUST GAIN EMPHASIS in order to force THE LIBERAL SPIN on AMERICAN HISTORY lessons, going into the brains of every American child, since THEY HAVE DETERMINED that our children have not learned "the truth" about what happened in earlier days. THEY INSIST that our history was totally fouled from the very beginning of our history, and that justice is forever stacked AGAINST black citizens in the way our Constitution and our Declaration of Independence was written, and in the way that American businessmen set up their business endeavors. These liberal demanders want black folks to be permanently angry at the white folks of our country, even though our country has corrected the slavery issue, way back in the mid-1800's. Our country never intended to have inequality at all. The institution of slavery had existed since Biblical times, and was always considered to be wrong by most people, even though it was allowed in many countries who had wealthy landowners. The wealthy used their money to buy slaves, thinking that those slaves would allow them to work the land, enabling them to retain their wealth. It was wrong of those wealthy to do such a thing, but it was not considered to be 'an evil action' in those days, since most governments determined that it was acceptable for development of land holdings. When those wealthy land holders came here and bought land, they brought with them those same 'wrong-headed,' but accepted practices. In time, our citizens decided that slavery was wrong for this country, and there was a great, forceful uprising that corrected the practice, at great expense of life and treasure to the United States, as we all know.

I'd like to hear from our readers here on this forum, if you think that I am misinformed on the subject of Critical Race Theory's application in our elementary, middle school and high school curriculum? Why is it SO necessary to teach our children that black children are to be considered forever 'dis-honored, degraded and deficient,' and that white children must be forever 'beholden' and ashamed of who they are?.... the forebearers of misguided, historical foul-ups of the 1700's in our country? To teach to our kids our foul-ups, is not useful to be used as weapons against what our corrected history teaches us to have and uphold, as our guiding light today. It is not a good idea to point out the circumstances of life in the 1700's and compare that way of life with what our lives are in this era, as the two are vastly different, and we all are much more educated now; more enlightened as to what we want to achieve here now. Our Founders stated that "All men are created equal" as they had learned from Biblical teachings, and that we ALL have God-given rights in this country. Why they didn't realize the awkward and wrong-headed nature of their ways concerning slavery, is an issue that is puzzling to figure out, except to know that the evil practice was common and acceptable to practically all people of that era. But to keep re-hashing the negative history in an effort to justify the continuing anger of black people living here, doesn't do anyone any good, it seems to me. And the history that has been uncovered as 'possible new discovery of issues that may have happened way back when,' is very old, history, remedied with a mass correction, by a huge group of people who were mostly NOT wealthy people in the first place. Most US citizens were ordinary, smalltime farmers trying to provide for themselves a smalltime living, without slaves.

I think "race-baiters" are to blame for the current hullabaloo! People like Al Sharpton gain recognition and even money from riling up the black folks with whipped up rhetoric!

I apologize for rambling on and on......just trying to understand......

10/05/21 06:58 PM

#22424

Lance,

From Mark Twain:

"There are no dialogues. Only intersecting monologues."

Also I like from him:

"There is nothing so annoying as to have two people talking when you're busy interrupting."

Or how about from him:

"Let us make a special effort to stop communicating with each other so we can have some conversation."

SO TRUE TODAY from that great thinker:

"Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today."

And how about this one, with the CRT stupidity, and now they're threatening parents who are griping about that & wokeness to the educators:

"In the first place God made idiots. That was for practice. Then He made school boards."

10/05/21 07:14 PM

#22425

This is a post. A conversation is when two ore more people speak. You can respond, and it would be a response to a post.

I have always liked baseball. As I cook my spaghetti with zuchini, yellow squash, mushrooms/onions/garlic/ground beef...I am intrigued by the Yankees Redsox matchup.

Two team who hate each onther. A good thing, I think, that one of them will be eliminated from the playoffs tonight.

I guess I lean towards the Yankess. I like Gerrit Cole.

10/05/21 07:21 PM

#22426

Joey Gallo gets rung up, IMHO without merit.

Wife says we oughta keep up with the bad calls. I say, ok.

But the Astros aren't even on network TV for their White Sox series. We are coming to Dallas and I fear my sister doesn't have MLB...which means I heading out to a bar for Friday, perhaps Thursday afternoon...

Thinking of Sherrill Park, Tenyson,, Canyon Creek, or Prestonwood on Friday morning. Just going by myself as I hurt my back and this will be first outing in 2 weeks...

Come on back.

10/05/21 09:02 PM

#22427

Lowell:

You mention Prestonwood Country Club.

My father used to be a member of the club. Previously he was a member of Spring Valley Country Club. I really liked playing their 9 hole course. It was something a high school aged hacker could play and not feel like he was destroying something pristine. However, there came a time when Spring Valley was sold and their members had to find somewhere else to play. It was about this time that Prestonwood was opened.

Upon learning of the fees to join the club, my father and his friends were not prepared to pay that amount. However, someone clever noticed that a corporation could join for a modest fee. So my father and friends formed a corporation and joined Prestonwood. Based on the number of individuals in the "corporation", their portion of the fees to join were reasonable and their monthly dues were likewise. Everything was great for a decade or so.

However, someone finally caught wind of this somewhat underhanded group and the club decided they needed to put a halt to the practice before it caused others to do the same. They provided a couple of options. My father chose to pay the normal fee to join (I believe it was backdated to the year his group joined). But the clincher was the club agreed he would only be required to pay monthly dues at the rate in effect at this time. So for the next 20 or more years his monthly dues never increased. Before he began to suffer from lung disease, he played four to six times a week. It was truly his passion.

My own family has great memories of Prestonwood, not for the golf course, but for events like the Easter egg hunt, special dinners, swimming, etc. Brings back good memories.

10/06/21 12:43 AM

#22428

Tommy!

I'm flattered that you worry about me, but please don't!

My son worries about me too, and I don't like that at all! I don't want anyone to worry about me because that embarasses me, making me feel that I appear to need a chaperone, or guidance from someone more lucid. I do my own thing, and wish for others to not be bothered by my goofiness, or my unpredictable whims. I insist that others do the same, and throw caution to the wind, within reason!

My interest and concern about our country's fate, is something I find intriguing and ongoing, as to our country's downward spiral, and as historians predict, falling quickly as did the Roman Empire. I guess I post about it all, since I'm disappointed that we Americans have not done better at preserving the remarkable heights to which we rose, now failing to retain those great achievements for all generations coming up, to be able to experience in the same way we did. I'm forever grateful for all that I have enjoyed in this country, owing so much to my wonderful parents and to my loving Father, who dwells in celestial paradise; soon to be transported Earth-bound and committed. Enjoying the fabulous wine and eccoutrements of our beautiful world are most certainly gifts for us all to have at our pleasure. We are all so lucky to be here at this moment in time.

To what do we owe all of our good fortune? Do you ever think about that?

I think we owe an awful lot to our ancestors, and that is why I listen constantly to what is happening to our country every day. i feel I have been entrusted to maintain and add to this incredible gift.

To Lance,

I am indeed sorry to bore you so much with my blather, and still urge you to simply skip over my posts. I want you to remain in good humor at all times, so please, when you see me there in my little bunny suit, just picture me sitting on my patio swing, sipping my lemonade or wine cooler, watching the hummingbirds, blue jays, mourning dove, titmice, cardinals, and ordinary wrens, gazing also at the butterflies lighting on the daisies and roses, then watching them go bouncing along with the breeze, over the grapevine-draped fence top, headed for a fluffy cloud, shaped as a face resembling a smiling Lance C.

10/06/21 08:29 AM

#22429

David Cordell

Kurt, I will get back to you on the rankings topic.

Lance,

You have repeated ad nauseum your critiques of this forum, and I have asked you repeatedly to lighten up. It is like being a guest in someone's house and criticizing the decor to the host. It's just rude. Did it occur to you that many people may not like your posts or your attitudes? Why not find some other site to whine on, like Tommy's? Why not start your own site? This site was not made in your image.

10/06/21 11:54 AM

#22430

Kurt, my parents also joined Prestonwood and even my sister's wedding reception was there, but as they got older, the costs were too much. The club had a 10,000 assessment in the 90's or late 80's which was to establish their new 18 holes in McKinney. I think they were disenchanted with the design issues at the Arapaho course, either too small an acerage or having to deal with constant overflowing of the creek (white rock?) Anyway, when my dad quite, he was supposed to get some kind of equity back, but the club had gone bankrupt and the new outcome having to escrow the members' equity before exiting the court. Regardless, it took legal expertise to exert that equity back from their coffers.

Family loved the tennis there and when I came up from Houston, I liked their golf because we don't have bent grass greens down here in Houston anywhere that make it through the summer...heat and humidity kill that grass. It happens in Dallas too, but at least it gets below 70 a night with fans blowing on the greens.

Both clubs are now part of Club Corporation. So, no more assessments. At least they are ''managed or owned'' by Club Corp. Just like Canyon Creek...

Having grown up on public course, I actuallly prefer them to country clubs when I go out of town. I like my club in Katy because of the club's member trounaments and the camaraderie amongs the players (regular groups.) Money games...as well as playing Gin or other cards sometimes.

I am trying to remember Spring Valley Country Club. Was it at Abrams? Was it up in Dallas by the Episcopal Church? I'm lost on that...

10/06/21 12:31 PM

#22431

Bob Davidson

Janalu -- I enjoy your posts. Even when I don't agree with you, your views are interesting and you have opinions rooted in decent values. Please keep them up.

Lance -- I find reading other's comments enjoyable. I don't have much spare time so I don't always respond promptly or even at all to everything.

Everyone -- one of my favorite authors, Victor Davis Hanson, was on Tucker Carlson's opinion show last night. VDH, as his many fans call him, talked about why he quit National Review after twenty years of writing for them: their elitist distain for Trump and his supporters. He, like me, sees Trump as a character like Shane or the sherriff in High Noon, a hard man brought in by an overwhelmed townspeople to deal with a menace to the town, but then despised by them for being hard, rough, and ruthless enough to deal with the villians.

(For you liberals, who are generally pretty uninformed about non-establishment media, National Review was the leading semi-highbrow journal of conservative thought from its founding by Bill Buckley in the 1950s until some time between Buckley's death and Trump's nomination. Now it's the home of prissy anti-Trump pseudo-purist conservatives who are culturally elitist, like their liberal friends, and angry that Trump has a Queens accent and isn't one of them. Most actual conservatives consider their writers and editors to be of the same ilk as Mitt Romney and Liz Chaney -- traitors.)

I recently read The Second World Wars, VDH's latest book and loved it. 1938 was a hell of a lot like now -- what seem like obvious war clouds in retrospect were missed by the leaders then. I doubt the drive by media are reporting it, but the biggest news in the world is China's warning that we should be ready for World War III. If you read the English language Chinese media, they adamantly insist that COVID is a US intelligence operation trying to blame the Chinese government for a false flag operation run by the CIA and NSA while we blame their lab. That kind of disagreement is the sort of thing that leads to wars and what China is doing to Taiwan and in the South China Sea should scare us all.

10/06/21 12:34 PM

#22432

Wayne Gary

Lance,

Here is a titmouse

10/06/21 02:31 PM

#22433

Wayne Gary

Lance,

Over what time is the Covid deaths reported? Death is not the only thing to look at. How many children are hospitalized and speed weeks on ventilators. Do you feel it is ok for your son to get sick and have to go to the hospital and spend time on a ventilator when it is easy to prevent? Do you buckle up and have your son buckle up. And if so why? What are the chances you will be in a serious accident each time you go out?

Did you cancel you cruise because you refuse to be vaccinated? Every stop on a cruise require people to be vaccinated.

Dr Jeffers of First Baptist Dallas says to get vaccinated. Don't you believe him?

10/06/21 03:52 PM

#22434

Lance,

Don't listen to David C; don't change a thing. You make me look civil by comparison!!! hahahahahahaha!!!!

10/06/21 04:13 PM

#22435

Is anyone going to the Oklahoma/UT game on Saturday, or just enjoying the game while sitting in your favorite Barcolounger with an adult beverage to leisurely sip, and loud, snack-consuming friends all around, tripping over the dog?

Does Big Tex still look the same or was his appearance changed after he went afire?

What's the newest delicacy to eat on the infamous Midway concourse? Fried lettuce wraps encasing tofu crickets?

We may go up to the fair this year, so I'm wondering what the highlights are in the news. Anything being advertized as specialty sights to visit?

I guess there will be an assortment of electric cars to view, as well as New Green info adnauseam to be thrust in everyone's face for perusal, as we drip mustard from our corny dogs across those fascinating fliers used as napkins......

Do you remember the STATE FAIR movie with Ann Margret and Elvis?

10/06/21 04:37 PM

#22436

Wayne Gary

Janalu,

I would suggest getting to the fair early. If you use the train and park away from downtown. If you park north then get off after the Pearl St stop to catch the Green line otherwise you will have to fight a crowd getting on the train.

Bid Tex has been given a facelift after the fire.

10/06/21 05:18 PM

#22437

I made many minor changes so I thought it worth re-posting - obviously I couldn't improve upon number VII. Now you can laminate it or send it out with your XMAS letter and/or whatever. I think toilet paper with this on it would be a GREAT XMAS IDEA!!

10 Commandments of American Marxism (no particular order; otherwise that would be anti-chaotic - ed.)

I. Thou shalt forsake care when taking the Lord's name in vain. (FUG-GED ABOUD IT - ed.)

II. Thou shalt not commit honesty nor perform good works.

III. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house unless it's defended, especially in a St. Louis neighborhood.

IV. Remember and ridicule the Sabbath as thou ignore it & let thy freak flag fly.

V. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife when thy neighbor is an NRA member.

VI. Thou shalt have no other god before Satan (mother of all no-brainers - ed.).

VII. Thou shalt not murder unless thou can get away with it and keep the Party out of it.

VIII. Thou shalt not deem it stealing when engaging in a peaceful demonstration.

IX. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor unless he's a racist White Supremacist.

X. Thou shalt not commit adultery since sin is just a concept, and right and wrong are relative (i.e., for those in doubt, go for it - ed.).

XI. When in any doubt, thou shalt flee to thine own revered & beliked Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". (not beloved - there's no love there - duh - ed.)

10/06/21 05:31 PM

#22438

Tommy,

I don't know what's going on with you. I do know that I used to see black lawyer Leo Terrell on FNC and he was always unhappy with a frown on his face. He was a liberal so I learned to ignore him when he spoke, but I always still noticed his attitude. Now he's gone 180 degrees and is a Trump supporter. But as I was reading what you posted, I thought of him. He's happy NOW ALL THE TIME plus it seems his IQ has gone up about 30 points within the last couple of years! hahahaha!!! Anyway, this was no spiritual conversion on Leo's part.

Of course the source for ETERNAL happiness and peace IS the spiritual conversion.

Just sayin'........

10/06/21 06:58 PM

#22439

Lance:

I might have played at Brookhaven Country Club twice while in high school. I believe Bill Carpenter's father was a member or had privileges there. At the time it was a very immature setting with all of the trees being saplings. I certainly would never have shot an 82 on the course. Well done.

10/06/21 07:11 PM

#22440

Lowell:

What can I say about Spring Valley Country Club. Second rate?

It was the club where our class party was held after graduation. I've come to understand we held the party there because there were no other nice places available.

The club was located about two blocks west of Preston and one block south of Spring Valley. It had a 9 hole course with smallish bermuda greens. The owner was a former college diver, so the club had a nice diving pool and olympic swimming pool. It probably had four somewhat run down tennis courts. Apartments were built over the course.

Best memories were playing the course early in the morning when the dew was still on the greens and watching the track carved by the ball as it rolled towards the hole. Or renting a cart and hauling down the hills, then spinning the wheel at the bottom so the cart would spin. Or playing the long par 5 which bordered a number of old dilapidated homes populated by black families and almost all of them had Cadillacs parked in their yards. When you hit a ball over the fence, the kids would find the ball and you could buy it back from them by the time you walked down to where it went over.

Again, it was a great course for a hacker high schooler to play. When my father joined Prestonwood, my invitations to play seemed to dry up. Imagine that.

10/06/21 07:55 PM

#22441

I always thought Spring Valley stopped before White Rock Creek, just West of Hillcrest. I guess it starts up again on the other side of the Creek. Somehow I missed that club...hard to believe.

We took off after graduation and didn't go to the all night party...Spent the night camping at Lake Dallas. I was the safe person for some partakers...I didn't partake for some time after..

10/06/21 10:54 PM

#22442

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

At Northwood several times I've been my aunt and uncle's Sunday brunch and weekday lunch guest when he was alive and then a few additional times with just my aunt. It's a great place. Neither of them played golf even in their more active, younger years.
Heck of a wake luncheon for my uncle there. 200 plus people.

10/07/21 01:56 PM

#22443

Lance,

I see that you have noticed, as I have noticed, how Republicans handle their anger toward what has happened with the country's embrace of Biden, juxtaposed to the way The Democrats handled their anger of conservatives electing Trump.

The Democrats erupted in mass anger with daily, continuing tallies of Trump's lies being ballyhooed with great zeal each day and exaggerated totals, with summertime riots in left-leaning cities where BLM chants were an obvious thumbs-down taunt to the very people Blacks insist are the people who are racists, even though history has recorded that it was the Democrat Party who were the actual racists of our history. I could go on and on listing all the anger incidences that ensued with what we remember happened during the Trump years, yet what do we see the Republicans come up with, as one way to express our displeasure; our response?

We have developed an annoying and rude chant for 'our team' to chant at crowd gatherings; the chant you pointed out in your previous post. Notice how we use a calm and rather pernicious 'poke in the side or the eye', to irritate those folks who refer to us as White Supremacists, or domestic terroists invading the schoolboard rooms! Our methods are much more 'low key,' and could we even say more civilized; less destructive?

Republicans don't fight like barbarians, or like former jungle people. We prefer to poke our brothers in the eye, like Moe did to Larry, or Curly. When did we develop that method? And why?

Biden's hold on us is still young, so we will see what more develops of our methods, but I feel I can predict that we White Supremacist "domestic terrorists" will be much less nasty in days to come. We won't paint our country's avenues with ugliness at which the world will gawk and wonder.

10/07/21 02:27 PM

#22444