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01/17/21 10:49 PM #20038    

 

David Cordell

Lance, please ignore this post and the photos.

Janalu,

No one else stepped forward to share photos of their travels as you requested, so here are some from our trip to Italy and Spain in 2019. I don't remember posting photos of that trip, so I hope these aren't duplicative. The vast majority of the photos I take on trips do not include my family or me -- I have tons of photos of artwork in the Prado, the Uffizi, and other art museums, for example. I culled through to find these photos that do include Martha and me. I took a lot of video, like on the canals of Venice, but I'll probably never get around to editing it.

St. Mark's Plaza in Venice

One of the villages in Cinque Terre. This photo was taken by a nice man from Singapore. He and his wife ate lunch with us on the tour from Florence to Cinque Terre

 Cathedral of Santa Maria del Fiore (The Duomo) in Florence. (Yes, I know that the photo is crooked.)

Greek ruins in Agrigento, Sicily

The view from the terrace on the top floor of the house my grandfather was born in - Piana degli Albanesi, Sicily

National Palace in Madrid

This isn't one of the better photos from Barcelona, but I wanted to show the statue of Christopher Columbus, pointing to America. Apparently, he is still considered to be important in Spain.


01/18/21 01:29 AM #20039    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David,

Your photos are lovely and sunny, just like your smiling Martha!   So nice to enjoy!  The architecture is amazing and interesting for me, as I've always liked looking at the varying creations, in movies and travelogues, wondering how the structures were built so long ago.  The people were exceptionally talented back in those days, finding ways to create them all, with limited tools and equipment, and the artisans who carved and painted were so darn skilled, weren't they?  Those little towns built right on the steep inclines just above the sea--so picturesque--like pretty postcards...   Makes me envious of the beautiful views from the windows!  Can you imagine living in a little house, then waking up in the morning to see such glimmering sights?  It's no wonder so many people enjoy touring Europe.  The quaintness, structure styles and lifestyles are vastly different from what we see here in our country.  Of course our country is a good bit younger than Europe, and was developed within a completely different set of extinuating circumstances.

Your having captured Columbus pointing in the direction of America was so typically you!  I think your humor is still the same as it always was in 'the sixties', when we were kids!  HA! 

Your family's old home must have been so interesting to visit and stay within, for a few days.  Super cool!  I think I remember your writing one time earlier that the house has three stories.  What did you think of the interior?  Pretty and colorful tiles?  I guess they don't need air conditioning, or do they?  Are the bedrooms on the third floor, to catch the breezes in the evening?  I remember also, that you showed us a photo of your great-uncle (?) who was being honored in a town parade, and was riding a donkey through the streets, wearing robes.  Such fun for you and Martha to see as spectators, as well as being honorary relatives invited to the ceremony!  I wish I had relatives overseas to visit.  I DO have a niece in Denmark who has a small home with her husband and kids.  Maybe I could pop in to see them one day, just for a look-see, and a litttle gift from Texas, since I know that she sometimes gets homesick. (She used to live in Houston.)

Great travel pictures!  I could imagine being there for a few minutes just now....

Thanks for showing them to us all.......


01/18/21 03:10 AM #20040    

 

Steve Keene

Holly,

Thank you for the kind words, I think.  If RJ is a gun nut I am afraid you have put quite a target on my back.  I am already looking over my shoulder for liberals and democrats.  Now I have to watch out for a salt and pepper haired distinguished looking assassin.   I am at my wit's end.  I am afraid I am going to have to enter the witless protection program.


01/18/21 06:49 AM #20041    

 

David Cordell

Janalu,

Here is a video of a site that very few American tourists will ever see. It is the interior of the Palatine Chapel in Palermo, Sicily, which dates to the 12th century. The interior walls anc ceiling are entirely mosaic. If you watch the video, there are some close-ups that show the mosaics' detail. The link below provides information.

https://www.visitsicily.info/en/palatine-chapel/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappella_Palatina

 




01/18/21 07:25 AM #20042    

 

David Cordell

Steve said, "I am already looking over my shoulder for liberals and democrats."

Satchel Paige said, "Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you."

David says, "I wouldn't worry to much about liberals, Democrats, or jealous husband assassins. At our age, we have more to fear from Father Time! Whether we look back or not, he is gaining on us." 

Separately, isn't it interesting that the New York Times fired it's Op-Ed page editor for publishing a piece from Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton that urged use of the National Guard to conteract riots. Is the NYT objecting to the use of 25,000 National Guardsmen to surround and protect the Capitol and the whole mall?


01/18/21 09:59 AM #20043    

 

Steve Keene

David,

I have a theory that the reason they have ordered all the troops to the Capitol and White House is to cover up the fact that otherwise the crowd would look like one of Biden's rallies.

That is going to be the biggest waste of military manpower since Vietnam.

Headline   "Democrats Schedule Riot But Nobody Came."


01/18/21 10:40 AM #20044    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Lance, you are correct about less civility   I rack up the less usage of the websites to it being old hat and tired for many to participate, as well as old folks have a hard time remembering how to log in to blogs and post...I know I blow off old websites I have visited in the past until I have to re set my user name or password.

Civility being less is because social media somehow is different from speaking to folks like you would in an elevator....Usually riding up or down in an elevator is a civil process.

Also, many folks can't figure out how our culture changes constantly....and leaves them wanting for either better past times, or a future that includes their viewpoint as centrally focused.

Wisdom includes recognizing that viewpoints are like assholes...everyone has one...

Now I am reflecting on whether using the term assholes is appropriate.   I wouldn't use it in an elevator....even being surrounded by many.


01/18/21 10:51 AM #20045    

 

Bob Davidson

David,

Thank you, the Palantine Chapel video made my day. 

We had a two-week trip to Italy for last March that was killed by COVID.  I'm champing at the bit for a chance to go again -- with the hope and prayer that restaurants, churches, ancient monuments, museums, etc., aren't shut down for my lifetime.

I've heard contradictory proposals from our new masters about how they will handle the virus:  both the immediate reopening of the most authoritarian blue states and Biden's proposed 3-month shutdown of the country seem to on the agenda.  I suspect that it's all a function of the dems being united only in hating Trump and his deplorables.

 

 


01/18/21 12:41 PM #20046    

Jan Alexander

Civility vs the lack there of.         My puny opinion.

I believe we as humans can fall short of civility at any moment in life.  However, if we were to monitor the scale , I think our civility or lack of reflects the mood of the times in the world.  If our nation is in some sort of semblance of stability in economic good health and  we aren’t threaten by pandemics or climate disasters, you will see us talking tulips and hamburgers. We feel safe.  Nothing in our little lives feels like it could be ripped out from under us.  We have warm homes and our families are safe.

When there is turmoil in our world that threatens our way of life including our  Republic/Democracy ,as we have know it.. fear creeps in and we react… We feel we need to persuade , influence others to come over to our side of things.  Some feel like they have the right to say anything they want without any self-regulation of the tone or hurt that it can cause to others.  They bogart with their self importance .

Other times civility is lost when religious enthusiasts try to persuade other groups that their way is the only way to the highway of heaven. There could be a  multitude of heavens... We all need respect each other's cultures and belief systems... There are too many tribes in the world . Your brownie points don't count in the scheme things for thrusting your views on others.

On another note , I  think this clip warrants posting regarding Pulitzer Prize Winner David Zucchino' s book , Wilmington's Lie - The Murderous Coup of 1898.  Really good ...   (fast forward thru the annoying commercial.)   He talks about the tactic of spreading misinformation to promote and incite hate and violence...thru out  history...  

The end




01/18/21 04:12 PM #20047    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Jan,

Good thoughts.  Great post.  I completely agree!


01/18/21 09:07 PM #20048    

 

Holly Hobby

My fellow enchanted valley girls,

This one's for you. 


01/18/21 09:15 PM #20049    

 

Holly Hobby

Janalu,

Got it. Totally  understand. I know you meant no malice. Please, don't give it another thought. Always, always  I  will remember you as that bubbly, cute little girl with the adorable freckles. heart


01/18/21 09:23 PM #20050    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Thanks Holly! 

I remember you very well too! 

I hope your little backyard kitty is faring well!  Thanks for the kindness you have given that little munchkin!  That little one needed a special person, and luckily found one!


01/18/21 09:31 PM #20051    

 

Holly Hobby

Jan,

Glad you liked Amazon Prime trailer. It was so you. Sandra. Hollis.  And me.  And those brave guys here and behind the scene cheering us on. 

Btw: I'm with Sandra. Your's and Lowell's post great.  Somehow I know she'd agree, "great and quite brilliant." Well done, both of you. 


01/18/21 10:23 PM #20052    

 

Holly Hobby

Janalu,

Thank you.  I know you, too, love animals. Says so much about you.heart


01/18/21 11:15 PM #20053    

 

Holly Hobby



One more.

My fellow Enchanted Valley Girls (and brave men here, and behind the scenes, cheering us on),

 Emotions running high this historic  pre-eve inauguration. United, hand in hand, on  count of three, let us stand to sing "I Will Remember You."  


01/19/21 12:07 AM #20054    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David,

Thanks so much for the video of the incredible Palatine Chapel of Palermo.  It is a beautiful place indeed.

Can you imagine how many hours and how much dedication of the artisans it took to create its loveliness?  It is truly a treasure for the ages, with so many stories and so much history pictured, as well as marvelous statues.  I would think a person could get distracted from the sermon, just looking around at all there is to take in, trying to decipher the depicted meanings.  I know that would be my dilemma, each time I entered its door.

I wonder how many Palermo citizens attend each Sunday?  I wonder if there are as many today attending as there were at the time it first opened?

I read about a little of its history to find that the architecture is a mixture of Byzantine, Norman, and Fatimid (mosque-like) styles.  The mosaics are said to be of unparalleled elegance.


01/19/21 06:32 AM #20055    

 

Jerry May

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIM MULVIHILL!     

 Have a good day brother!


01/19/21 07:02 AM #20056    

 

David Cordell

Happy birthday, Jim.

Janalu,

I don't know, but I doubt that very many people attend services in the Palatine Chapel. It is in within the Norman Palace. Sicily has been run over by just about everyone, including the Normans. I posted the wrong link in my prior post. It was supposed to go to another website, not to my video. This Wikipedia link is good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappella_Palatina

Also, lots of photos -- 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&authuser=0&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALeKk01xJAnvPTgHSQdmaTT3r_Dtnhc5jg%3A1611061242845&source=hp&biw=1707&bih=771&ei=-tcGYJa5MILYsQXb0Jf4DQ&q=palatine+chapel+palermo&oq=palatine+chapel&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgDMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADoHCCMQ6gIQJzoFCAAQsQM6CAgAELEDEIMBUPATWJwxYKBDaAFwAHgAgAHsAYgBkQmSAQYxMy4xLjGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ7ABCg&sclient=img


01/19/21 08:24 AM #20057    

Jan Alexander

Holly , Christina can kick it out of the ballpark with her voice , can't she.

Lancelot,  I hope your hospital stay isn't a covid visit.. GET WELL so you can continue being your onery self.

My updated Bucket List is to visit every National Park in America in a R.V. 

Adios.

 


01/19/21 09:35 AM #20058    

Jan Alexander

Lance, So funny or not... literally just heard on the my fav Colorado radio station... WYOMING wants to succeed too ,  now... SHIT !  Thank Goodness , I have already done the National Park in Wyoming.. 

Just funny


01/19/21 01:22 PM #20059    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Lance,

Best wishes for your healing time.  God speed to you!

Thank goodness for loving sons!  I'm sure Christopher is a wonderful helper and companion.


01/19/21 02:38 PM #20060    

 

Bob Davidson

There is a truism: hard times create strong people, strong people create good times, good times create weak people, weak people create hard times.

It certainly applies to American history: there have been three super cohorts in the about 240 years of our country.  The Revolution created a group that ran the country through mostly good times for about 40 years – Washington through Jackson.  Then we had a period of mediocrity and weakness, which led to the Civil War.  The Civil War generation ran the country from Grant through McKinley.  The next period of mediocrity (with the possible exception of T.R.) led to the Depression and World War II.  The WWII cohort ran the country for the good times from Eisenhower to Bush I.  Now we are in another period of mediocre, weak leaders.  It would seem that we are probably in for another period of crisis.  You can roughly say that the good times and bad times lasted about 40 years each.  The periods of weak leaders were characterized by corruption, partisanship, incivility, and things falling apart, like the recent past.

Incidentally, Theodore Roosevelt is probably the closest to Trump President I know of.  He was utterly hated by the elite of his day.  He led the Main Street faction against the Wall Street faction of the Republicans and the values of decent Americans against the the grotesque racism and corruption of the contemporay Democrats.

Right now, big business, Wall Street, the tech titans, the swamp bureaucracy, and big pharm are thriving.  Small business is being strangled by the reaction to the Wuhan Flu and the shutdown.  The tech overlords and their political henchmen are making sure that our current Overton Window is shrinking to exclude the opinions and beliefs of about half or more of the country – traditional American values and morals are pretty much outside the Pale. These actions are almost certain to cause conflict between a shut-out "Main Street" and the increasingly smug and nasty elites. 

Personally, I saw Biden vs. Trump as Wall Street vs. Main Street or, to be more personal, the garbage elite vs. people like me.  Conversely, the Dems seemed to see it as normalcy vs. the Bad Orange Man who does everything bad and is crazy and evil and stupid and ugly and a poo-poo head and a Russian stooge and a racist, Islamophobe, and xenophobe, not to mention a sinner and a meanie and writes mean tweets to the totally wonderful, admirable people who try to destroy him with slander.    

Of course, the country could just gradually fall into deepening decay, like Britain between the War and Thatcher.  Or maybe, just become a socialist paradise like Venezuela or Cuba, but with a worse climate.  I don’t think that’s very likely since there are always wannabe Hitlers, Tojos and Visigoths outside the gates waiting for us to decay into impotence.  I think the question is whether we’ve reached the end of our run or are at the start of a new, different one, like Rome with Augustus.  

 


01/19/21 03:25 PM #20061    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Bob,

Very interesting, well-written and reasoned post.

Your next-to-last paragraph was spot on!  

The theory of Teddy Roosevelt being compared with Trump was intriguing and a comparison I've never heard before.  

Thought-provoking.

 

The media thought I'm hearing today of shutting down conservative choices on radio, TV, and the internet is unbelievable insane to me.  What has taken hold of the minds of the Democrats lately?  Was Bernie Sanders truly THAT effective?  They seem to be oblivious now to the meanings of free speech and liberty.  I keep hearing that Republicans are members of Trump's "cult" and that we are enslaved to him, having no sensibilities to choose new candidates for our future.

What?


01/19/21 05:58 PM #20062    

 

Wayne Gary

I just saw this Dolly Parton's 75th birthday wish

"I do have a birthday wish that I want to share with you. My wish is that everyone does something a little different today," she wrote. "Let's call it a call for kindness."

"If you want to donate to your favorite cause, then donate. If you want to give an old friend a call during these lonely times, give them a call," she added. "If you can safely volunteer, then raise your hand to do so. If you decide that today is the day you get a dog, then run down to the shelter and find your new buddy. The choices are limitless."

She is one classy woman.  Very good wish


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