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Bob Fleming

Steve -

Will do.  This could  be the conversation of a lifetime.

Jan Alexander

This thing Sue created was not funny to me at all.. and for some unknown reason it really upset me. I guess it took out a lot of the trust I had in people that I had developed a comradery with. It was like losing a friend.

The façade/charade that Sue created could have had an entirely different outcome..  I am glad, Sue, you removed your Sue picture and post on the other website.  Because even though your prank was supposed to be punny , criminal mischief that starts out as a dare , prank or false impersonation ; along with tying up law enforcement hours of investigation could have led  to a serious criminal charge. Luckly , none of us classmates would want that to happen...we want to just move on .

Sue, the subject if guns were going to be brought to the reunion stirred up a lot of unnecessary concern and worry for quite a few.  I didn’t know to the extent that calamity caused but for me it is a serious issue and shouldn’t be played out by a little red hen yelling ,” the sky is falling”  for some practical joke………..

It also stirred up sadness.  What I witnessed from Sue was the intent to disrupt and antagonize those who were trying their best to organize  the 50^th reunion to the best of their ability.

If it is for Sue to be coming out … then she has/had my full respect …but the coming out party shouldn’t have been handled in such a way that it raised havoc, rudeness and divide amongst classmates.. So I have to believe it wasn’t for this reason but just to raise hell and vengeance. I really don’t know the real history between XXXXX and XXX enemy but it must be a very deep hurt.  I hope there is peace and resolution that we all can live with in the future…

Sue you need to fade away quickly.

(I removed any real reference to the impersonator for a reason… some of this post content , I have already posted on the other site)

David Cordell

Sorry, "Sue". I have too much on my plate on Friday to venture to Waco. Maybe some other time.

Steve Keene

Lance

Way to go.  Too many conditions and expectations voiced and you kill the whole deal.  You better stick to cruising and to boozing.

Steve Keene

Jan

So you did not find humor in the childish games of old men.  I think this might be more likely to get a chuckle out of you.

Steve Keene

Sue

They don't make you get a womaniped?

Lowell Tuttle

Wanda Sykes did a pretty good job on the new Marvelous Mrs. Maisel season three finale. 

I found this old video on youtube.  Thought it was funny.  Wanda plays Mom's in the Mrs. Maisel show...

Steve Keene

Lance

Despite your hateful attack on me when all I did was point out your obvious overkill on conditions, I offer you and the forum readers a more positive Christmas message:

Steve Keene

Jan

Here is a Christmas message for you as well.

Steve Keene

Lance

Could not help but notice the sign Carvery in your "cruisin and boozin" picture.  That is what they call the West Dallas Barrios neighborhood where all the illegal immigrants live.

Lowell Tuttle

Lance, just for grins (not) I looked up the 50 most dangerous cities in the world according to Wikipedia.

47 of the top 50 cities listed are in the Western Hemisphere.

Good job Monroe Doctrine.

Steve Keene

Lance,

Park Lane and Greenville is rough east all the way to Abrams/Skillman and South to NW Highway.  It is not an illegal immigrant problem there.  The Fair Oaks area is a mostly black neighborhood.  Guns not Knives.

Steve Keene

Lance

You are definitely mixing metaphors.  Tommy and Sue have nothing to do with Lubbock and Peggy Sue.

How about those Red Raiders knocking off the #1 college basketball team in the nation this week?

David Cordell

"Sue" -- 

Your question added a level of uncertainty and anxiety in some classmates. If you were a psychologist, I am sure you would understand, although I suspect that you understand all too well.

One of our classmates (Person X)  implored me to take unusual measures to protect against the possibility of a mass shooting, but I elected not to do so. Thus rebuffed, Person X elected to contact the UT Dallas police and expressed concern that there could be a mass shooting. (In the current environment, even spurious comments about shootings are taken seriously.) 

My name, my role as a professor at UT Dallas, and my role as chair of the Reunion were given to the detective by Person X. The detective passed my name to the Chief of Police (who had retired as Chief of Police of Richardson). The Chief responded, "I know him. In fact, I saw him yesterday." (My profile is higher than many professors because I was Secretary of the Faculty for eight years.) The Chief contacted the Richardson police.

My guess is that 20-30 hours of police time were committed to this issue.

So, "Sue", whether you were asking a legitimate question as a result of your timid nature, or were intentionally trying to undermine the Reunion by planting seeds of fear and uncertainty, your words started a chain of events that had unfortunate ramifications. 

Some "jokes" are only funny to the teller.

May I suggest that you concentrate your posts on Tommy Thomas's PunRHS1969.net message board? I have a feeling that your views would be very closely aligned with his.

Steve Keene

David

I found this nice girl Sallie on Facebook.  She is having a "Three Dog Night."

Steve Keene

David and Lowell,

I may not be so tough, but my grandpa was a real bad ass!

David Simpson

David, I won that bet. Does this mean I have to be careful driving through Richardson now?

Hull, why do you want to blame things on Monroe. Is he a socialist or something?

My grandfather in East Texas used to tell stories about a traveling carnival that would come through Crockett every spring. They had a bear you could wrestle for money. Every year people tried and tried, but nobody could  beat the bear. There is a moral in there somewhere. Ah, the good old days. That's not the moral.

Hull Barbee

David Simpson.......... I don't think I blamed anything on anyone ......... I don't even know who Monroe is

David Simpson

My bad Hull. That was Lowell that was blaming Mr. Monroe Doctrine. I musta been worried and confused that I was going to see the inside of the Richardson jail for the second time after David's report. Started having flahbacks! You'll need to bail me out if they come get me, David. The first time I saw the inside of the Richardson jail was the famous night (60's) of the "Midnight Mooning Massacree". We were driving around looking for mischief and I don't remember who all was in the car. We pulled up beside a woman and Mcbride and I decided to moon her at the same time. Yes, a double mooning. Turns out she was a dispatcher for the police. Apparantly an APB went out and we were eventually stopped in old downtown. Must have been about six cop cars, lights flashing everywhere. Officer Jerry Green (a very good friend) showed up at the scene, looked at us with with a Chesire cat grin and said, I can't get you boys out of this. They made it look like we robbed a bank. It must have been one of the biggest crimes that year because there wasn't much crime in Richardson in the 60's, which is why it was so great growing up there. They took us to the station, fingerprinted and butt-printed us for evidence. So I guess somewhere in the criminal arcives down in Austin is a print of our butts. We eventually were transferred to the little Red "juvy" detention center down on Harry Hines. Ah, memories! I think I need to write a book on growing up in the 60's. We weren't all straight laced like David. Coming next week, Jack Daniels and the bull riding near death experience, summer of "69". I even have pictures. You'll never believe who all was there.   

Hull, hope everything is going well. If you are an outdoorsman/hunter, I'll have an announcement for a business I am starting after the first of the year that might interest you.

Holly, where are you. I miss ya. You're a great story teller and never boring. You don't weigh anything soaking wet, but you have the mentality of a pitbull. When you bite, you don't let go. Write something every once in a while to liven things up.

David Cordell

David S. --

I had my own moment with the Richardson police. I was in ninth grade. An eleventh grader let me drive his car. I got caught speeding on Waterview. The police took me back to my house, and eventually there were four police cars in front of the house. The boy who lent me his car got into big trouble, too. I felt terrible for getting him in trouble.

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

David Cordell

Has anyone here leased a car. I never have, but am tempted. What was your experience?

Lowell Tuttle

David.  Generally Own and trade is better than lease and return.  But, sometimes pricing can be favorable, because dealers have incentives to sell a lot of vehicles. 

At trade time, market dictates value of vehicle you own....but, also could have value on vehicle you lease if you choose the correct agreement and keep mileage way under the lease terms and the vehicle in good condition.  Sometimes people can sell/trade the lease just before the term ends and get a return.  Since so many people lease (they can't afford to buy) used vehicles 2-3 years old in good condition can demand a premium, but owning can put you in control of the timing of that marketplace.

Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate...Leave and go back...leave and go back...

Unless you don't want to hassle with that. 

Some folks lease all the time and use the same dealer and sales persons.  They harp on how good a deal they got.  (I would say NOT.)

Also, don't fall in love with your leased vehicle.  It's not yours.  If there is a total loss, (accident/flood) the settlement goes to the leasing company, not you.   Have to lease again. They don't even discuss the claim with you.  Plus, a lot of times the vehicle is way less than totaled, and you want to get it fixed, but you can't because it's not yours.  Most leasing operations require behind scenes GAP coverage be included (cost passed onto you wihtout any disclosure, meaning included.)  This allows the lease to end favorably for the risk takers. 

I am sure other people have comments about this. 

I have a 2003 Saturn Vue.  A 2006 Nissan Titan.   And a 2013 Toyota Camry.  All bought new.   My prior vehicle was a 2001 Chev. Suburban which ended it's life in Ennis Texas with 375,000 miles on it in 2005...So, I strech my ownership out, as you can see. 

My livelyhood, to a certain extent, depends on auto shoppers re buying and re buying and re leasing.. 

Can you believe the prices on vehicles?   Ford F150 and Explorers are over 30,000....easy...I remember my first new car, a 1973 Mazda RX 3.  It was 3903.00.   My Dad's 1968 Chev Malibu SS 396 convertible was 4707.00 (bought off the showroom spinning disk at Doral Chevrolet off LBJ and Inwood.)

PS  Limits of liablity on car insurance requires higher than minimum limts if lease....but I am sure you have that anyway....Some people don't.  Some can't get the higher limts due to credit or driving loss history.  And, limits of liabity are a "policy" coverage, so you have to carry those limits on all vehicles on policy even if they are owned, and even if they just sit in the driveway...

Again, one final note.  I might be like the Seinfeld "opposite" George show.  Do the opposite of what Lowell says and you will come out favorably.

Wayne Gary

David,

Leasing makes sence if yu plan on driving less than 20,000 miles/yr and want a new car every 2 or 3 years,  I you want a car and plan on keeping it longer (like when the wheels fall off) It is better to buy.  A big savings is to by a 2 or 3 year old leas return can be 1/2 th price of a new car.  Several years ago I bought a 2 yr old Chrysler Town & country with 40K for less than 1/2 of the new price.  I drive 30 -35K/yr and I now have 165K and it is paid for.  I have previiously bought T&C for work with 35-40K miles and sold them with 220-250K.

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

The ultimate, seated between two Santas!