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11/09/19 06:46 AM #17123    

 

Steve Keene

Janalu,

When my daughters were 12 years old, my very good friend who was an Arabian Horse Ranch Manager gave them matching miniature dachsunds from the same litter in Midlothian.  They had those dogs all the while they were growing up and Madison's dog, Prince died at 14 years of age in her last year of college.  Makenzie's dog, Frankie is still alive at 17 and can't hear well or see well but he still goes on a walk around the neighborhood with her when she gets home from work.  She has three other dachsunds that he tries to outdo:  Elvis, Sammy and Presley.  Dachsunds are the best.  I had one when I was kid, named Dutch Schulz because he was such a low character.  Dutch was a regular size dachsund and he hated my Dad.  Dad was always trying to get him out from under the bed with a broom.

Sue,

Do you have a rottweiller?

Jan,

Somebody told me that dachsunds were bred to kill rats and ground squirrels.  I guess they could be trained as retrievers for guys that shoot prairie dogs.

 


11/09/19 12:48 PM #17124    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Yes Lance,

I agree that you are an ENTJ.

As Martha Stewart would say, "And that's a good thing!"


11/09/19 02:34 PM #17125    

 

David Cordell

 


11/09/19 03:03 PM #17126    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Lance,

You said:  Sandra   Since you campaigned in 2016, It seemed reasonable to me that you did / will for the 2019 and 2020 DEM elections as well. Nonetheless, I respect your civic service by monitoring the polling process...and your beliefs and commitment to ensure fairness in our elections.

In order to campaign, you must run for office.  I have never run for office in any election, in any year ever, therefore I have never "campaigned".   I did get elected to Vice President of the Candy Stripers in my senior year in High School, but it was generally recognized that no one else wanted the office.   I don't count that because I didn't campaign then either!

I do appreciate your mentioning my civic service, and my commitment to fair elections!  Thank you!

 


11/09/19 03:11 PM #17127    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David,

Who's the guy on the horse?

Is there a new sheriff in town?

Is your photo in reference to a previous post?  Sometimes I'm slow on the uptake.

That's not you on Debbie's horse, is it?


11/09/19 03:18 PM #17128    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Sue,

Does your cat have the cheshire cat smile?

You know sometimes people have been said to resemble their pets.  Have you noticed people like that, i.e.  a big chubby guy with saggy jowls who kinda looks like the bulldog he has on a leash, as they walk down the street?


11/09/19 04:56 PM #17129    

 

David Simpson

Steve, I think you've hit on a business oppurtunity. Breeding dachshunds and raising Prairie Dogs could be the perfect match if a Socialist is ever elected President. Will need to research how many puppies Dachsunds average per litter and how many Prairie Dogs it takes per 100 lbs. Let's see, Prairie Dogs are the fruit of the land. You can bbq it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it, theys, uh, Prairie dog kabobs, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried, pineapple Prairie dog, lemon P.D., coconut P.D., pepper P.D., P.D. soup, P.D. stew, P.D. and potatoes, P.D. burger, that, that's about it. Think where you have heard this. It worked for them. I'll bet those people in Latin America would enjoy a fat Prairie Dog about right now. I had a fella tell me that Prairie Dog tasted pretty good. He said it tasted a lot like Gopher. Well I don't know about that. I know Rattlesnake tastes a lot like, well, Rattlesnake. And froglegs and gator tail do not taste like chicken, but they are good. Sorry, I digress. A theme song popped into my head for this new business venture. "Moving to Montana soon, gonna be a Prairie Dog tycoon." 

A wise old man once told me; "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."


11/09/19 07:31 PM #17130    

 

Wayne Gary

I saw the new movie "MIDWAY" It was very good.  It showed some things that were not in the previous movie. 

I think it was well done.  I did spot several goofs which did not spoil the movie for me and I will not elabrate.

If you go be sure to watch the credits as it identifies the people and what became of them. 

They do not identify the pilot they show in the water dodging bullets.  I believe it is supposed to be Ens. George Gay (a Texas Aggie) who was only survivor from his squadron.  The mission was the first time he took off from a carrier in a torpedo bomber.


11/09/19 10:31 PM #17131    

 

David Cordell

The guy on the horse is Hull Barbee, circa 1970. A group of us were making a western movie on Eddy Norton's family's ranch.


11/10/19 04:45 AM #17132    

 

Steve Keene

David,

That picture of Hull you posted must have been right after the shot of the bird dogs flying over.

 

David S,

I did not think it was possible for someone to be as much of a curmudgeon as me.  We should probably make plans to hang out.  We could doubly piss people off.


11/10/19 04:52 AM #17133    

 

Steve Keene

Wayne,

It has alway fascinated me how Aggies were still being born.  I have to admit that I thought they would have become extinct by now due to natural selection.  Your post about Ensign Gay helped me to see why they still exist.  If he had been bright enough to not crash his plane, he probably would have been shot down and killed along with the rest of his squadron.   No offense intended, but Aggies must be some of the luckiest people on earth.


11/10/19 11:17 AM #17134    

Don Chester

Fellas, regarding Midway, Goerge Gay, and Torpedo 8, the legend and myth is not quite correct. In fact there were 3 surviviors of Torpedo 8.

If you get a chance, the Museum of the Pacific War in Fredericksburg is excellent and covers this subject in detail.

Here is a nice article about the ordeal of Ensign Gay and other survivors of Torpedo 8.

"Often mistakenly referred to as Torpedo Squadron Eight’s lone Midway survivor, George Gay nevertheless plays a huge role in the battle’s enduring mystique. In the 75 years since the Battle of Midway, Ensign George “Tex” Gay Jr. has evolved into an almost mythical figure. Ennobled on the cover of Life magazine in August 1942, he received the Navy Cross and became iconic as the “sole survivor” of Torpedo Squadron Eight (VT-8), whose 15 TBD Devastators from the aircraft carrier USS Hornet (CV-8) attacked the Japanese fleet on 4 June 1942.

Gay wasn’t actually the squadron’s sole survivor, but he was as indisputably brave as the two others from Torpedo Eight who survived the battle that day. Ensign Albert K. “Bert” Earnest piloted one of the squadron’s six TBF Avengers that attacked the Japanese fleet from Midway Atoll. He brought his battered hulk back in a harrowing flight that Admiral Chester Nimitz called “an epic in combat aviation,” earning him the second of his three Navy Crosses (his first was for “press[ing] home his attack” on 4 June). Earnest’s wounded radioman/gunner, Airman Third Class Harry Ferrier, also survived. But 45 of the 48 men of VT-8 were killed that day."

https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2017/june/torpedo-eights-celebrated-survivor

 


11/10/19 12:52 PM #17135    

 

Wayne Gary

Steve and Don,

After Ens. Gay was picked up Admiral Nimitz debriefed im since he was only American to have a "Front Row Seat" of the entire battle. After that he did visit Texas A&M and my father met him before he went into the US Navy in the fall of 1942.

Steve,

There were 19,000 aggies serving in WW2.  More than US Military Academy or US Naval Academy.


11/10/19 01:07 PM #17136    

 

Wayne Gary

Tomorrow is Veterans Day and yuo should wear a Poppie in remerance of those hwo died.  England, former GB countries and France call November 11 as Remberence Day as 11/11/11am 1918 WW1 ended. Up until the '50s the US called it Arminest Day before change it to Veterans Day

Here is the background on wearing poppies. 

John McCrae was a poet and physician from Guelph, Ontario. He developed an interest in poetry at a young age and wrote throughout his life.[1] His earliest works were published in the mid-1890s in Canadian magazines and newspapers.[2] McCrae's poetry often focused on death and the peace that followed.[3]

At the age of 41, McCrae enrolled with the Canadian Expeditionary Force following the outbreak of the First World War. He had the option of joining the medical corps because of his training and age but he volunteered instead to join a fighting unit as a gunner and medical officer.[4] It was his second tour of duty in the Canadian military. He had previously fought with a volunteer force in the Second Boer War.[5] He considered himself a soldier first; his father was a military leader in Guelph and McCrae grew up believing in the duty of fighting for his country and empire.[6]

McCrae fought in the Second Battle of Ypres in the Flanders region of Belgium, where the German army launched one of the first chemical attacks in the history of war. They attacked French positions north of the Canadians with chlorine gas on April 22, 1915 but were unable to break through the Canadian line, which held for over two weeks. In a letter written to his mother, McCrae described the battle as a "nightmare",

For seventeen days and seventeen nights none of us have had our clothes off, nor our boots even, except occasionally. In all that time while I was awake, gunfire and rifle fire never ceased for sixty seconds ... And behind it all was the constant background of the sights of the dead, the wounded, the maimed, and a terrible anxiety lest the line should give way.

— McCrae[7]

Alexis Helmer, a close friend, was killed during the battle on May 2. McCrae performed the burial service himself, at which time he noted how poppies quickly grew around the graves of those who died at Ypres. The next day, he composed the poem while sitting in the back of an ambulance at an Advanced Dressing Station outside Ypres.[8] This location is today known as the John McCrae Memorial Site.

Poem


The poem handwritten by McCrae. In this copy, the first line ends with "grow", differing from the original printed version.
 
An autographed copy of the poem from In Flanders Fields and Other Poems. Unlike the printed copy in the same book, McCrae's handwritten version ends the first line with "grow".

In Flanders Fields and Other Poems, a 1919 collection of McCrae's works, contains two versions of the poem: a printed text as below and a handwritten copy where the first line ends with "grow" instead of "blow", as discussed under Publication:[9]

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
  That mark our place; and in the sky
  The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
  Loved and were loved, and now we lie
      In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
  The torch; be yours to hold it high.
  If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
      In Flanders fields.


11/10/19 01:36 PM #17137    

 

Wayne Gary

Steve,

When someone makes disparaging remarks about A&M or Aggies I remember they are only jealous of the Great School and its graduates. A&M is the first public college in Texas  (1873) and Texas Technological College(1923) is younger and smaller.


11/10/19 03:21 PM #17138    

 

Steve Keene

Wayne,

I am proud of all the Aggies that served in the military as well as the brave men and women from every college.  God Bless them for protecting us and for their patriotism.  I am also glad that the Aggies deflected the jokes from all the other schools.  That was a selfless act of courage.  The Bush library is a great example of what great men in this country think of Texas A & M.  When I had a medical problem with a high dollar Arabian horse there was no other place to call but the experts at A & M.  I do think the Corps and the Band go a little overboard and I will never forget how they treated the SMU lab band that used to play for Mustang Aggie games.  Of course, the SMU preppies stepped on a nerve when they played "Oh where, Oh where has my little dog gone" when Reveille came on the field.   I also saw them run over an 80 year old woman who got in front of them and when someone yelled for them to stop, their reply was "You don't break the ranks of the band!"


11/10/19 04:08 PM #17139    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Wayne,

We all recognize that the Aggies are super fine fellas and gals, with wonderful, patriotic attributes.  Also TAMU is a very fine university, ranked highly.  It is my opinion that they are often teased because of the word 'agricultural' in their university's name.  All throughout US history, our citizens have frequently belittled the farmers, as if they felt the farmers were a mostly uneducated bunch, but many of us who have familial, agricultural roots know that farmers are very bright and more educated in life's lessons, than many of the "so-called" university elitists who reign over us.

The joke is on them, the elitists, right?

The teasing has become an amusing pasttime for everybody, and everybody gets teased fairly equally, eventually.  We have to laugh at ourselves and at what we find amusing!  We're all a bit silly & full of corniness-----which may stem from the good old agriculturally grown, American corn we enjoy eating!


11/10/19 04:49 PM #17140    

 

David Cordell

I've always admired Aggies' esprit de corps and loyalty.

About farmers -- my father's parents were teachers, but also farmers. My father graduated from Biggsville (Illinois) High School, in a class of 17 students. (Not much like our class!) He earned a PhD and became a professor (like Janalu's dad). Coincidentally, my wife had a professor at UT who was a high school classmate of my father. Two PhDs in a class of 17 kids of farmers.

My farmer cousins are well-traveled and well-read, and they make sophisticated use of the commodities futures markets to hedge pricing of their crops. Their children developed a very strong work ethic. I often thought about sending my children to work on my cousins' farms for a few weeks in the summer to gain a full appreciation of farming and hard work.


11/10/19 05:32 PM #17141    

 

Wayne Gary

Texas A&M is a "Land Grant College" as well as other schools like Okl state, La State, Miss state.  12 of the 14 schools in the SEC are Land Grant.  Every state has one.

They were all a result of Congressman Morrell who penned the Morell act of 1862. There were to be one college in each state to educate students in the Agructural and Mwechanical arts.  At that time all of the colleges were teaching liberal arts,  No colleges were teaching Agructural or Mechanical courses,  Us Aggies learned a long time ago to laugh at outselves.  When I was at A&M there were over 5 volumes of " 101 Aggie Jokes" published by Aggie Mothers. I still have several.


11/10/19 10:35 PM #17142    

 

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

My father was a graduate of A & M having entered in 1942, left to join the Navy in 1943 at age 18 where he was the ordinance man in a Navy plane turret. The School of Architecture surely treated me, my brother, and niece to a fine banquet dinner and awards ceremony when my dad was posthumously named an outstanding alum.

11/10/19 11:56 PM #17143    

 

Karin Ridenour (Anderson)

My dad and mom were in the Navy and met in Supply School in Bayonne, NJ. Mom had to get out when she got pregnant with me. We lived on Midway Island when I was in second grade and there were still miles of sunken tangled cables off shore to stop submarines from landing on the island. We went to see the movie tonight in Dolby so I am still reverberating with the explosions of bombs and torpedoes. I really appreciate those who gave their all to bring the war to a close. May we be done with wars now so Peace can prevail. I also acknowledge my husband's service to our country in the Vietnam War though at the time I was protesting it. 


11/11/19 03:24 PM #17144    

 

Wayne Gary

Hollis

When was your dad awarded "Outstanding Former Student"


11/11/19 03:35 PM #17145    

 

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

Wayne: 2004.

11/12/19 03:44 PM #17146    

 

Wayne Gary

Lance,

Not bad for the "Weird". You asked about Aggie Spirit, All you have to do is watch an AGGIE game and you will see the entire student body "12TH Man" standing the entire time the teams are on the field.


11/12/19 08:47 PM #17147    

 

Steve Keene

Wayne,

Never did understand those Aggie traditions.  Wait for the team to score and then kiss your date.  At Tech and UT the object was to score before the team did and kissing was optional.


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