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Lowell Tuttle

A baby born here in the U.S.  is subject to the laws therein.   For one, they are subject to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.   For another, that baby can't be murdered, which would be against any laws.   Also, that baby (born in a hospital) these days gets an instant social security number, and is subject to SS laws.   Also, that baby gets a birth certificate with footprints, subject to the laws regarding birth certificates...

There are ton's of laws which that baby, conciously or unconciously are subject to.   They did not write that into the amendment so that later, persons born here could be called non citizens.   At 1 days old or at 66 years old...they were subject to the laws of the US and that State on that date they were born.

So, how could a baby born here NOT be subject to some law herein?

As such, any idiot SCOTUS would realize deporting a US born baby or person would be a violation of that amendment.

Ron Knight

Lowell 

Let me quote Richards/Jurisik Immigration Lawfirm on the subject of birthright citizenship.

"Claryfying the Scope of Birthday Citizenship"

"The 14th Admendment does NOT grant automatic citizenship to every child born in the United States. For instance, children born to foreign diplomats or enemy occupiers during times of war have historically been excluded. Congress codified this interpretation in federal law 8 U.S.C. wartimech mirrors the language of the 14th Admendment. A Presidential executive order was issued January 20, 2025, to clarify these rules further. It specifies that U.S. citizenship does not automatically apply to individuals born in the US, depending on their parents immigration status."

In my opinion there is precedent with foreign diplomats and enemy occupiers for SCOTUS to ponder. It is not a stretch they could rule that illegal immigrants could fall into the category of being excluded, thus closing the loophole of "anchor babies" .

Jim Bedwell

Any person from any country is FIRSTLY subject to the jurisdiction of its home country, and SECONDLY subject to the laws of any other country in which that person is present. "Birthright citizenship" here is UNCONSTITUTIONAL - the aliens belong to their home country and its jurisdiction. Aliens here DO NOT have the same rights as citizens have, no matter where they're born. PERIOD.

Bob D,

Your being a lawyer, what do you say about this?

Lowell Tuttle

How do you discern between what you call and anchor baby, and a 60 year old retired person who was born here of Canadian parent who were not citizens, not did they become citizens, when that person was born in 1965?

He was an anchor baby.   He might even now be in a federal prison for murder or tax evasion.

The implication is that the government can "choose" who they want to act upon whenever they want if that person can't show their parentage as being true citizens.

It is a ridiculous action.   And, just plain mean...if not racist (in case it would be applied that way.)

Of course, that is assuming the individual even wishes to stay here.   Had I a choice and the option to go elsewhere, I certainly would not.   

Jim Bedwell

Birthplace does not in and of itself confer citizenship nor should it. It's where your parents are from, not where they are present upon a child's birth. "Anchor babies" are unconstitutional.

Ron Knight

Lowell

Whatever SCOTUS rules on, I feel sure they will consider the past and perhaps have some sort of grandfather clause. To me that seems logical. BUT, I think they will rule from the day they decide and forward, not going backwards to your scenario of the person born in 1965. 

Anchor babies have been a way for illegals to bypass our immigration laws and it has been taken advantage of. I just think it's time to have SCOTUS clear up the ambiguity in the 14th Admendment that's created the loophole. That's all. Who knows they may rule to allow anchor babies??!!

Please take a deep breath!!

Lowell Tuttle

Not only that...but this so called "anchor baby" has grown up, has kids, are they anchor grandbabies?   Under certain circumstances I would see that as a yes.

Say she's on vacation for the firs time out of the country.   She comes back with and gold star id, with a passport, with even a job in the U.S.

Some overzealous port of entry guard refuses entry?   Are her kids refused?   Oh.  there's a new interpretation of citizenship...ancor babies not allowed...even when they're 30 40 50 60 on SS...see ya...off to the immigrant prison.   We got the Trump memo..

Lowell Tuttle

And.   I hope some writer does a story on the Asylum hearing for the "farmers" from S. Africa.   I want to hear what the immigration law judge rules compared to what we see in Texas courts after asylum imigrant seekers get when they get their cases released.   They were abducted after leaving the court house by ICE agents, having just left with the case against them granted/dropped.

I hope the ICE guys adjuct those S. African farms at their Asylum hearing.   

Jim Bedwell

Ron,

Here are the number of days of at least 90 degrees in Asheville. You said under 10 normally, but it varies widely. Here are the stats I found on-line.

In Knoxville, we get about 36 days over 90, so it's hotter here than there. Portland, OR has about 16. Dallas has about 80-130 every year, with the records in 1910 and 1911 with at least 140 those 2 years - YIKES, that was before air conditioning!!!!

The last 3 years in Knoxville, we've had 48 (2024), 18 (2023) and 41 (2022).

Wayne Gary

According to ABC SCOTUS did not rule on brthrite. They ruled that a district judge cannot give a nationwide injuction. They an only rule on the parties involved.  The birthrite willhave to go from a district aourt then apealed to "Circuit Court pf Appeals"  then to SCOTUS.

Ron Knight

Jim B

WOW!! I've been here since 2013. Call me an optimist with under 10!!!

I've been here since 2013 and I'm about 50% right of the 10 and under days.

Jim Bedwell

Wayne,

Yes, the SCOTUS ruled today these nationnwide injunctions by leftwing rogue judges cannot overrule Trump or another President, chief of the Executive Department, in a nationwide manner. This is a win the left can't spin!! YEE HAW!!!

Jim Bedwell

Ron,

So are you a cockeyed optimist? Although. it does appear that you're right about 10 or less 90 degree days about 1/3 of the time.

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

ETERNAL ENMITY

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."  - Genesis 3:15

Hey Ron, I applaud your earlier effort toward “digging deeper” concerning warfare in the Middle East, with roots of “eternal enmity” playing out in the Gaza war, and now with Iran.  Indeed, it is a wake-up call to the world!

Adding on…

The ancient Canaan area of Gaza, now inhabited by the Palestinians, was formerly renamed by the Romans as Philistia (in order to spite Israel, by renaming their land after their ancient enemy, the Philistines) to further show Rome’s bitter hatred against the Hebrew people. 

Over the centuries, this contested land has been inhabited by both Philistia and the Edomites, who subsequently received severe divine judgment and curses.  The Bible presents these as distinct consequences for their respective sins against God and His covenant people. As adversaries of Israel, they experienced God's wrath due to their own malice, pride, and actions.

With a larger lens to zoom out, it’s amazing to see the enmity of Satan vs. God starting in the Garden of Eden…and continuing into our future apocalypse described in Revelation!

FYI, in Genesis 3:15, after the fall of humanity through Adam and Eve's disobedience, God addresses the serpent (Satan) with a pivotal statement that introduces the concept of "eternal enmity":

The Meaning of Enmity:

Deep-seated Hostility/Hatred: The Hebrew word for "enmity" (אֵיבָה, 'eibach) signifies an intense, inherent opposition, hostility, or deep-rooted hatred. It's more than mere dislike; it's a profound antagonistic relationship.

Spiritual Conflict: Primarily, this enmity is a spiritual one. It's the conflict between good and evil, between God's purposes and Satan's destructive agenda.

Between Humanity and Satan: The primary enmity is established between the woman (and by extension, all humanity) and the serpent (Satan). This means that humanity is fundamentally opposed to the forces of evil. While humans may be tempted by sin, there is a built-in aversion to the ultimate evil.

Between the "Seed" of the Woman and the "Seed" of the Serpent:

Seed of the Woman: This refers to the lineage of humanity, ultimately culminating in Jesus Christ. While it broadly encompasses redeemed humanity, its ultimate fulfillment is in the Messiah.

Seed of the Serpent: This refers to those who align themselves with Satan's purposes, those who manifest evil and rebellion against God.

This aspect of enmity explains the ongoing spiritual warfare and moral conflict throughout history – the struggle between those who follow God and those who are under the influence of evil. 

The Church vs. the World: In the New Testament, this enmity is seen as a conflict between believers (followers of Christ, the ultimate Seed) and the world system that is opposed to God.

Internal Enmity (Humanity's Struggle): 

Man vs. God: Humanity's sinful nature creates an "enmity against God" (Romans 8:7), where the mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God's law.

Man vs. Self: The internal struggle between our desires and God's will.  Man vs. Man: The breakdown of harmonious relationships, leading to conflict, blame, and violence (as seen immediately in Cain and Abel).  Man vs. Creation: The curse on the ground and the struggle for sustenance also reflect a broken relationship with the environment.

"Eternal Enmity" and Satan's Failed Attempts Throughout the Bible:

Genesis 6:5-7

Explanation: Humanity's widespread corruption (possibly a satanic attempt to prevent the "seed" from emerging) led to God's judgment by flood, but He preserved Noah, ensuring the continuation of the promised lineage.

Genesis 12:1-3

Explanation: God establishes a covenant with Abraham, through whom the "seed" will come. Satan repeatedly attempts to disrupt this lineage through barrenness, famine, and conflict, but God faithfully preserves it.

Exodus 1:15-16, 22

Explanation: Pharaoh's genocidal decree to kill Hebrew male infants was a direct, large-scale satanic attempt to destroy the nation from which the Messiah would arise. God protected Israel.

Esther 3:6, 13

Explanation: Haman's plot represents another significant attempt to exterminate the Jewish people, thereby cutting off the lineage of the Messiah. God sovereignly intervened through Esther and Mordecai to save them.

Matthew 4:1-11 (specifically verses 9-10)

Explanation: Satan directly tempts Jesus, the ultimate "seed of the woman," aiming to divert Him from His divine mission and undermine God's redemptive plan. Jesus perfectly resists and defeats Satan's efforts.

John 13:2, 27

"The devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him... Then after he had taken the morsel, Satan entered into him. Jesus said to him, 'What you are going to do, do quickly.'"  Explanation: Satan orchestrates Jesus' betrayal and crucifixion, believing it to be his victory. This is the "bruising of the heel" for the Messiah, a painful but temporary wound.

Ongoing Spiritual Warfare in Prophecy:  

The impending Gog-Magog war led by Russia, Iran, and Turkey with their Muslim confederacy will fail in their attack against Israel, thanks to God’s supernatural intervention …but with great bloodshed and loss by Israel.  It highlights that humanity cannot overcome evil on its own; divine intervention is required.

The Prince of Persia and the Prince of Greece (Daniel 10)

In Daniel chapter 10, Daniel is deeply troubled and has been fasting and praying for three weeks. An angelic being (often identified as Gabriel or another high-ranking angel) appears to him and explains the delay in his arrival. The angel reveals that he was delayed by the "prince of the kingdom of Persia" for twenty-one days, and that Michael, one of the chief princes (an archangel), came to help him. The angel also mentions that after he returns to fight the prince of Persia, the "prince of Greece" will come.

Here's what this passage suggests:

Spiritual Warfare: This passage provides a unique glimpse into the unseen spiritual realm, where angelic and demonic forces interact and influence earthly events. It indicates that behind the visible political and national powers, there are unseen spiritual entities.

Territorial Demonic Spirits: The "prince of Persia" and "prince of Greece" are generally interpreted as high-ranking demonic entities (fallen angels) who have been assigned to specific nations or empires. They exert influence and authority over these earthly kingdoms, seeking to hinder God's plans and oppose His people.  This concept is often referred to as "territorial spirits," where specific demonic powers are associated with particular geographical regions or nations. Their aim is to promote idolatry, rebellion against God, and oppression of God's people within their sphere of influence.

NOTE:  do you ever wonder why certain places on earth “feel” oppressed, heavy with an uncomfortable atmosphere that’s inexplicably evil?

Intercession and Divine Intervention: Daniel's prolonged prayer and fasting are directly linked to the angelic assistance. This highlights the power of intercessory prayer in affecting spiritual battles and the timing of God's interventions. Michael, as the "prince" of Israel, is seen as Israel's angelic protector who engages in spiritual combat on behalf of God's people.

The angel's statement that the "prince of Greece will come" foreshadows the historical shift in world power from the Persian Empire to the Greek Empire (under Alexander the Great), indicating that even future geopolitical changes have a spiritual dimension.

The Prince of Rosh and Gog (Ezekiel 38-39)

The figure of "Gog" is introduced in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 as a powerful leader from the land of Magog, identified as the "chief prince of Meshech and Tubal" (Ezekiel 38:2-3). Some translations render "chief prince of Rosh" instead of "prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal," with "Rosh" potentially referring to a geographical area or being an adjective meaning "chief." Many scholars connect "Rosh" to ancient peoples that settled in what is now modern-day Russia, Meshech and Tubal to regions in modern-day Turkey.

The prophecy describes Gog leading a vast coalition of nations (including Persia, Cush, Put, Gomer, and Beth Togarmah) to invade Israel in the "latter days."

Here's how this relates to Satan's strongholds and God's declaration:

Gog as a Human Leader (Putin?): While Gog is a human leader (or represents a nation/coalition), the scale and nature of the invasion often lead interpreters to see him as empowered or directed by satanic forces. In Revelation 20:7-8, after the millennium, "Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle." This New Testament reference links Gog and Magog directly to Satan's final deception and mobilization of forces against God's people.

Satan's Strongholds and God's Opposition: In the context of Ezekiel, Gog and his allies represent the ultimate human and spiritual opposition to God and His chosen people, Israel. When God declares, "I am against you, O Gog," it signifies His direct and ultimate opposition to these forces of evil. It's not just a battle against human armies, but a divine confrontation with the spiritual powers behind them.

Divine Sovereignty and Judgment: The central message of the Gog and Magog prophecy in Ezekiel is God's absolute sovereignty. He declares that He will "put hooks in your jaws" and "bring you out" (Ezekiel 38:4), indicating that Gog's invasion, though seemingly an act of his own will, is ultimately orchestrated by God for His own purposes. 

"The prince of Persia," "the prince of Rosh," and "the prince of Greece" serve to illustrate the biblical understanding of a spiritual hierarchy of evil that influences earthly nations and their rulers. These "princes" are seen as demonic strongholds. 

In essence, since the beginning, God's statement in Genesis 3:15 about putting enmity is a profound declaration. It not only explains the spiritual conflict and broken relationships that plague the world due to sin but also provides the very first glimmer of hope for a solution—a coming Redeemer (Jesus Christ) who would ultimately conquer the source of all evil.

Bottom line: wars against God and his people in Israel will continue to be center-stage, until Jesus returns!

Bible Commentaries: These are invaluable for in-depth analysis of specific verses.

Bible Hub: Often provides multiple commentaries for a single verse.

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/genesis/3-15.htm

Blue Letter Bible: Offers various commentaries, lexicons, and interlinear tools.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/nasb/gen/3/15/s_3003 (You'll need to navigate to the "Commentaries" section from here).

StudyLight.org: Another good source for various commentaries.

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/gn/3-15.html

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Ron Knight

A Little Follow Up On My Deep Dive In The Middle East

I mentioned Sayyid Qutb as the Father of Jihadism and The Islamic State. I also mentioned a reference to a Hitler mustache he wore. That was by no coincidence. He loved Hitler and his hate of the Jews. And preached eradication of the Jews and of any non-believers. I only glanced over The Muslim Brotherhood. Founded in 1928 by Hassan al-Banna in Egypt, it is the root of today's Islamic State. But, The Muslim Brotherhood wasn't radicalized until Sayyid Qutb came along. Those are two real good sources to study to help you understand the middle east today. 

I saw an interview with a lady who now lives in California, who legally immigrated from Egypt. She is a Muslim and grew up in the 1950s in the Gaza Strip, that was a part of Egypt back then. Their sermons at the Mosque always ended with cursing and damning the Jews and death to the infidels. She grew up she said with extreme hatred for Jews being fed to her each week. She thought cursing and chants of death to Israel to be normal. Fast forward to when she moved to the US in 1979.  She first visited a Mosque and while women were allowed inside (different from her Mosque in Egypt), the message was the same hatred for Jews at the end of the sermon. She visited a Synagouge and was shocked to see how welcomed she was and how peaceful everyone was towards her. No cursing or damning the Muslims! Then she visited a Christian church and again she was welcomed with open arms and people prayed for her. Everything she had been brought up to hate was exposed to her. She has now denounced her Muslim faith and has converted to a non denomination Christian church. I'll have to find the video again and post it for all. She was a VERY passionate speaker. And very passionate to reject the teachings of the Muslims.

In all my research, everthing points to the Arabs as the bad guys here. There is NO evidence that this land is Palestine's. If anything it's been communal land for thousands of years with the Arabs and Jews and with the Jews to have the right to claim the land as much as anyone. In fact, most of the Arab world doesn't like the Paletstinians. No one is offering them refuge. They are liken to the relative no one invites over for the holidays. These protestors don't have a clue what they are protesting, except for the ones organizing the protests. I'm sure they are being paid by taxpayer non profits. These non profits need to be defunded.

I firmly stand proudly with my Jewish friends and completely back them. And just a random thought about Christianity verses Judaism, is it just me or has anyone else thought it to be ironic that Jesus had 12 disciples and there are 12 tribes of Israel? Or that The Torah and The Old Testament are basically the same? And while I'm at it, is it strange that the prophet Muhammad at age 51 took his good friend's daughter Aisha as his third wife at her tender age of 6-7 years and consumated their marriage at her age of 9? Muhammad is the most revered person in Islam. Wouldn't fly today!

Bob Wainner

Well, I guess you can call me a "birther" or a "conspiracy theorist"...but I "still" don't believe that Barack Obama IS a "naturalized citizen of The United States".

Last night, I listened to an audio (telephone conversation) between an American Pastor & Barack Obama's Uncel (who was in Kenya...sitting with Obama's 89 year old Grandmother). On my laptop screen during this phone conversation were "english subtitles" to ensure you could fully understand what was being said.  Obama's Grandmother does not speak "The English Language"...she speaks "Swahili" (sp). So, Obama's Uncle translated what the Grandmother said into "English".  The most important part of this telephone conversaton was when the Paster asked the Uncle..."Would you ask Barack Obama's Grandmother IF she was actually present when Barack was born?". The Uncle asked her in the language she understood.....and she replied in her language...."Yes, I was present in the Kenya Hospital where Barack Obama was born". And one thing most of us do understand.....old people and young children just don't tell lies. 

Well...sometime between then and now.....the Democrats & the Deep State have managed to "cover-up" all of this and make sure Barack Obama had what seemed to be a legitimate "Certificate of Birth" in Hawaii.  A "Birth Certificate" is different. And it is very "easy" to Photoshop & create a very good fake "Birth Certificate". Obama spent well over $1 million to keep The State of Hawaii from releasing information that would put this issue to bed.

I also read that Obama's Mother moved the 2 of them to Jakarta - Obama's Mother married a man there who adopted Barack Obama...and by doing that caused Obama to lose his U.S. Citizenship. Obama spent at least 4 years going to school in Jakarta & studying the Koran...he even got became a Citizen in the Nation where Jakarta is located & a Passport.

I also read a 23 page lawsuit against Barack Obama...filed by several Attorneys stating Barack Obama was NOT a "naturalized U.S. Citizen (meaning he also wasn't eligible to be a Senator in Illinois). I read most of this lawsuit.....very convincing case. But the Judge ruled against these Attorneys stating that he didn't feel there was "any harm to the American People" by allowing Barack Obama to be a "naturalized U.S. citizen" and therefore being eligible to be the President of The United States. 

OK, after reading ALL that we all now know about the lying Democratic Party and the Deepstate.....at least for me.....I wouldn't put ANYTHING past these people.  Obama was a "plant"...to "change" everything The United States stood for.  In one of Barack Obama's published books, he stated that if he had to choose between being Muslim or an American....he would choose "Muslim".  Think about the billions of dollars both he & Joe Biden gave to IRAN...does that make sense to anyone??? Both Barack & Joe should have been putting very heavy "sanctions" on IRAN...financial, Oil...etc.!

I also personally believe (IMO).....that the Democrats & Obama were working with the Chinese Gov't to create COVID-19. Because, let's face it...BOTH China & The Democrat Party hate President Trump equally. It's a fact that Obama diverted millions of dollars to Fauchi, so he could do "virus research" in the Chinese Lab @ Wohan, China. When the COVID-19 virus got out...there was a major international sports event taking placce in Wohan, China....so, all of those international sports participansts (who were likely infected with COVID-19) returned to their home Countires.  The results were that the U.S. was hit hard with COVID-19...giving the Democrat Party the "opportunity" to push for "mail-in votes" during the Presidential Election....also, giving the Democrat Party the "opportunity" to "stuff the ballot boxes" and drag Joe Biden over the finish line. It's been stated that Joe Biden got MORE popular votes than Barack Obama....really???  Anyone who truly believes that was NOT born on this planet. On day 1, everyone with an ounce of "common sense" knew Joe Biden was NOT mentially fit to serve as the U.S. President.....Joe & everyone who used that "autopen" did everthing they could think of to ruin The United States! But the Democrat leadership & Deepstate...know they could get away with literally anything IF they had Joe Biden sitting in the Oval Office...and they DID just that. 

The reason I have an "open mind" to these things is that I DO believe that literally anything can happen.  Who would have believe that Japan would have bombed "Pearl Harbor"?  Who would have believed that (2) commercial airliners would have knocked down the 2 largest buildings in the U.S. on 9/11.....nobody!  So yes, I absolutely believe Barack Obama is a 100% Fraud and did more damage to the U.S. than any other U.S. President (along with Joe Biden)...only I don't believe Joe Biden knew 10% of what was going on during his 4 yrs. in office. I shutter to think what would have become of America.......had Kamala Harris defeated President Trump....America would "no longer exist"!

Bob

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Bob,

My sister (who is now deceased) was a naturalized American citizen.  She actually had a dual citzenship.  One for America the other for Holland.  She had six children.  All of them became dual citizens even though all of them were born in Holland.  Tijl, one of her sons, has an American passport, and social security number.  He does his American taxes every year.  He also got the stimulus check from, you guessed it...Trump.  He still lives in Holland.

I was born in Frankfurt Germany of a mother who was also naturalized before I was born and my father was too. So both of my parents were citizens.  I had a hell of time getting my Texas driver's license renewed a few years back because my birth certificate is in German.  I had the form needed to prove I was a citizen but because it was so old and did not have a "raised seal" I had to jump through loops, pay hundreds of dollars and go without a driver's license for 4 months.  I got my passport renewed too.  They could deport me I guess....

I guess they could round me up and put me in detention without food or medical care until someone could prove I am a citizen.  I worry about that too.

Barack Obama's mother was an American.  It would not matter where the hell he was born.,  His mother was an American citizen from Kansas.  Not unless everything I am as a citizen is now null and void because you guys are all freaked out about immigrants.  

Do you guys propose that we go back and deport people like me??  How far back should we go to "prove" citizenship?  Grandparents?  What about birth certificates?  Will all of them be invalid since any baby born here gets one?  You gonna take that away from them and make them stateless because their mother or their father is not?  What if their father is a citizen and the mother is not.  Or vice versa.  What country would take a kid who is stateless?

Sheesh.  It boggles my mind how you guys think.  

This whole thing is a big fat mess.  One last question for all you Trumpers....would you like it if a Democrat could get by with what Trump as done to Federal jurisdictions, habeus corpus and some of his insane executive orders? 

Good grief I will probably regret posting this.  

My horrified facination continues.....

Ron Knight

ZOHRAN MOMDANI, Democratic Mayoral Candidate for NYC

I've been asked my thoughts on this person of Muslim faith who's becoming the face of the new age Democrat. Celebrated and endorsed by Bernie Sanders, AOC and Hakeem Jeffries, Momdani,33,  who has never held a job in the private sector with his resume being that of a politician and rapper. Yes, rapper as in music. He is a self proclaimed communist and official member of the Democratic party as well as The Democratic Socialist of America Society. He was born in Uganda. Went to college in South Africa where he championed Hamas and Free Palestine protests. He became a US naturalized citizen in 2018. He has a supposed net worth of $650,000 with an annual income of $110,000, $8,000 a year from speaking engagements and $5,000 from music royalties.

Now my thoughts. As many of you have read, I've been immersed in getting to know as much as I can about the conflict in the middle east and the Muslim belief system. ANY Muslim who supports Hamas is antisimetic, period! New York City has the largest Jewish population in the US. How is that going to work? That's the first hurdle. The second hurdle may be his status as a naturalized US citizen. There are people calling for an investigation as to whether he lied on his application. He did not list his communist affiliation on his application, which would have automatically rejected his application. Third, he will be investigated for his connection with Hamas and if found to have one he could have his citizenship revoked and deported. My thoughts are the Democrats are making a huge mistake going down this path with this person as the new face of your party. He is anti-capitalism, pro-communism. He wants to have state run grocery stores. How has that ever worked out? Businesses will flee New York, people will flee New York. He wants to raise taxes that are unsustainable for business to survive. With people and business leaving the tax base will erode and there will be no money for all the free programs he supports. Plus, I doubt the New York City Council would approve them anyway. This candidate is a cancer for the party. I think this cancer is terminal.

Bob Wainner

Sandra;

I guess I find it very "curious" that there are literally thousands of articles online about whether or not Barrack Obama is a "naturalized U.S. citizen" or not.......hmmm, wondering why?  If it really is just a "simple, shut & dry case", I really don't think there would be so much "controversey" about Obama's birth place.

I read where it was possibly "Hillary Clinton" who back in 2008 started all of the "birther" discussion....by stating that Barrack Obama's Mother was in Kenya & was too far into her pregnancy to travel on a commercial airline...so, she waited until she was able to travel to Hawaii to "register Barrack Obama's birth"......in The State of Hawaii in 1961.

There was a video I watched several years ago...where Barrack Obama was standing along side Hillary Clinton and some others...dressed casually at an event.  Obama was President at the time. The Star Spangled Banner began to play & I noticed that Barrack Obama just stood there with both hands clasped down below his waist........when he "should" have had his right hand placed over his "Heart".  IMO, Barrack Obama was NEVER properly "assimilated" as an "American".....he is and always will be a MUSLIM....period.  In the (8) years he served as President of The United States, he did every thing he could to "try" to "change" American into something it was NEVER intended to be.....and that's a FACT.  He continued trying to ruin "America" while Joe Biden was President for (4) years...and almost succeeded.  I thank "GOD" that a majority of Americans voted for President Trump over Kamala Harris.......OR this Nation would have been LOST forever!!! 

And NOW, the Democrat Party has zero leadership and no descent policies to stand on.  Look at New York City, they're about to elect a Socialist - Muslim - Anti-American guy for Mayor of NYC.  He will ruin NYC and if those people are wise.....they'd move out of that City.....now! 

Having servied in the U.S. Navy for (4) years & having attened one of the most "conservative" U.S. Universities in the Nation.....I just have always been a "Conservative" and a "Patriot".  I didn't serve those (4) Years in the U.S. Navy - 4 years of my LIFE....just to watch a man like Barrack Obama destroy MY Country. 

Oh.........and a BIG PS here:  Gotta LOVE the Supreme Courts recent ruling that IF a baby is born in The United States and the "Parents" are NOT legal U.S. Citizens...........that baby is also NOT a U.S. Citizen.  This has been going on for far too long.  Several Nations (like China) have been bringing women who are 8 months pregnant to the U.S. to ensure their babies are born here in the U.S.......so, their babies can be U.S. citizens....................NO MORE!!! 

Bob

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Bob,

For the record, when the national anthem is played I stand and show respect and sing along.  When the allegience is recited I put my hand over my heart.  This whole thing with the hand on the heart for the anthem is a recent fashion.  I was never taught this in school or anywhere else.  Uber patriotism.  One up manship.  I am more than you.

As for all the articles...well I guess loads of "articles" proves it.  Done.  I will expect to be deported on that basis.  I must be a German.  How about that!  

I think there are many articles refuting the theory of gravity.  That must mean there is no gravity.  I wonder why I don't just float off into space??

I will inform my nephew and nieces in Holland that their citizenship status is now  null and void due to numerous articles and Hillary Clinton.  You think all the taxes that they paid will be reimbursed?  How about all the stimulus checks they got from Trump?  Should they pay it back??  He sent them to citizens abroad and domestically too.  Kind of an acknoowlegement IMHO.

Should hospitals quit issuing birth certificates for any baby suspected of not being a "real citizen"?  I wonder how that will work?  Is it retroactive?  How far back should they go?  For that matter is Baron Trump a legal citizen?  Was Melania  a citizen before he was born?  I don't think so....

Signing off.  

Bob Wainner

Sandra;

You need to do your "Homework".

Placing your "right hand over your Heart" while the "Star Spangle Banner" is being played was first established on December 23, 1942. Also, you're supposed to "stand" and face the American Flag.  As President of The United States of America.....Barrack Obama "should" know ALL of the American traditions......apparently, he does not. 

Go look it up. You "should" have been teaching your students this "American tradition" in your classrooms.  Why didn't you know about any of this???

Bob

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Bob,

I am not a teacher.  I am a retired website developer.  I went to school from 1st grade through 12th in Richardson.  I was never told to put my hand on my heart for the anthem.  I do face the flag though for the pledge, but skip the part about God.  That differs from my beliefs.

So sue me.  It is still a free country and if push comes to shove, I don't have to do any of it.  

Putting your hand over your heart for the anthem is a like praying with your eyes open to see if everyone else has their eyes closed.

David Cordell

Just a quick reminder to keep all comments on a friendly plane.

About birthright citizenship --

There are obviously different ways to interpret this concept with respect to the Constitution, and we don't know how the Supreme Court will rule once it gets to them.

About illegal immigrants --

1. A sizable percentage of American citizens think that all illegal immigrants should be deported.
2. A significant percentage of American citizens think that illegal immigrants who commit ANY crime should be deported.
3. The vast majority of American citizens agree that illegal immigrants who commit serious crimes should be deported.
4. A small but vocal percentage of American citizens think that no illegal immigrants should be deported, but that borders should be maintained going forward.
5. A very small percantage of American citizens don't believe in borders at all.

My own view: 

Illegal means illegal. If they came here illegally, they have no right to be here. They committed a crime by coming here illegally. Full stop.

That said, removing every illegal immigrant would be unwise economically and ultimately impossible as a practical matter. Trump has recognized the former issue by saying that the agricultural and hospitality industries should get some slack.

Any illegal immigrant who commits any crime should be deported. (Number 2 above.) If evidence strongly supports guilt, they should not be allowed bail because of the likelihood of flight.

Any illegal immigrant who arrived during the Biden administration shoulld be subject to deportation. I limit it to the Biden Administration because that is when the borders were not enforced and because this group doesn't have deep roots. I don't buy the argument that the economy would be hard-hit by losing these people. We had a fine pre-COVID economy before millions were encouraged to stream over the border. As a group, they have been a net negative on the economy. Among other issues, their existence helps keep wages low for lower-income workers.

No illegal immigrant should be allowed any path to citizenship, regardless of how long they have been here.

No, this isn't a perfect solution. There is no perfect solution. There will always be examples of how cruel a particular policy may be. Examples: an honest, hard-working illegal immigrant gets deported, pr an innocent citizen is brutally raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant. 

For me the guiding principle is whether a specific immigrant will be a net positive for this country. They should be fully vetted and finger-printed and have specific reporting requirements that, if violated, are just cause for immediate deportation.

David Cordell

Sandra,

If it makes you feel any better, and it won't, I had to spend several hudred dollars and a lot of time to prove my Italian citizenship. I was born an Italian citizen, but didn't know it and had to prove it.

No need to explain why your situation was worse.

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

CONFLATING FACTS, FAITH, & POLITICS

The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord, but the words of the pure are pleasant. – Proverbs 15:26

NOTE: After 20+ years of posting here, I remain fascinated how, through prayer or otherwise, many here committed to contentious posting have departed, even to a 'better place".  My hope is that posts (especially mine) will continue to be fact-checked, solution-based, and welcoming.

Citizen Sandra, thanks for reading. Keep the faith!

Agreed, BobW…Assuming you’ve fact-checked your above birther post about Obama, why the lingering extremism in your unsettled beliefs?  To what end?

Hi Ron, thanks for your follow-up.   I reread your above post a few times and realized some issues, facts, and beliefs are being conflated.  So, for truth and clarity, let’s revisit a few examples of what you stated…versus what you likely meant:  

In all my research, everthing points to the Arabs as the bad guys here. 

Most Arabs are good guys, and friends of the USA.

I firmly stand proudly with my Jewish friends and completely back them.

If referring to politics, I understand you are backing Israel against Islamic extremism & terrorism.  However, in faith, God continually opposes Israel’s pride, disobedience, and rejection of Jesus as their Messiah.  In the upcoming months, through war, Jesus will soon return to condemn evil, and redeem the Jewish state and people back to faith.  As Christians, and without a hard heart, we pray for Israel.  

Moreover, we are also charged to pray for the people of Iran and Palestine…who are now coming to faith in Christ by the millions:  https://www.hudson.org/religious-freedom/good-news-iran-million-new-christian-believers-lela-gilbert

 Here's a list of Middle Eastern countries and facts about their Ethnicity, Faith, and Politics with Important Considerations:

"Arab": Refers to countries where Arabic is the primary language and cultural heritage. Iran, Israel, and Turkey are not Arab countries.

"Muslim": Almost all countries in the Middle East have a predominantly Muslim population. While Islam is the official religion in many countries, it's important to remember that religious minorities exist.

"Extremist Governments": This is a sensitive category. Here, it primarily refers to states officially designated by countries like the US as state sponsors of terrorism (Iran, Syria). It does not imply that entire populations are extremists.

"USA Friendly": This refers to countries that generally maintain positive diplomatic relations, cooperate on security matters, and often host a US military presence. This can fluctuate based on geopolitical events.

A FEW BELIEFS TO RECONSIDER for overcoming a hard heart, and contentious pride:

God is neither a Democrat, a Republican, nor an Independent.  

God’s government is a monarchy.

God is not on my side, nor my Co-pilot.  I’m either on HIs side…or not.

God is holy and the source of truth.  Satan is unholy and the source of lies.  

God is light; in him there is no darkness (black) at all, 1 John 1.

God is right all the time, and I’m wrong most of the time.

Black & White Extremism in Thinking: The Perplexity

The "perplexity" of black and white thinking in humans is its self-imposed limitation and distortion of an inherently complex world. It is a failure of cognitive processing that leads to narrow, often harmful, perspectives.

"Black and white extremism in thinking" refers to a cognitive distortion where individuals perceive the world, people, or situations in absolute, all-or-nothing terms, with no middle ground or shades of gray…e.g., polarized Forum stuck in we Republicans good…they Democrats bad. 

It's also known as dichotomous thinking.  The "perplexity" here lies in the simplicity and apparent certainty it offers, which paradoxically leads to profound limitations and distortions of reality.

Oversimplification of Complexity: The real world is inherently complex, nuanced, and multifaceted. This leads to an inability to appreciate context, differing motivations, or the many variables that contribute to a situation.

Inhibition of Growth and Learning: If something is "all good" or "all bad," there's no room for improvement, compromise, or understanding different perspectives..

Intolerance and Judgment: People who engage in black and white thinking often become highly judgmental. If someone isn't "with us," they're "against us." This fuels prejudice, discrimination, and an inability to empathize with those who hold different views.

Examples:

A politician (Trump) is either a "savior" or "the devil incarnate," with no acknowledgment of their mixed record or complex policies.

An idea is either "100% correct" or "100% wrong," leaving no room for partial agreement or areas for discussion.

They’ll never change, so neither will I.  This weak belief is a lie that excuses self-accountability for growth and fosters a broken community.

Truth is Objective and Immutable: If God is the source of truth, then truth is not relative, subjective, or ever-changing. It is an objective reality that exists independently of human perception or opinion.

Lies are Deliberate Deception: This isn't about accidental error, but malicious intent to mislead and distort reality.

Contrasting the Two Concepts:

While both constructs present a "black and white" dichotomy, their nature, origin, and implications differ profoundly:

Summarizing the Core Contrast:

The "perplexity" of black and white thinking in humans is its self-imposed limitation and distortion of an inherently complex world. It is a failure of cognitive processing that leads to narrow, often harmful, perspectives.

One is a description of a toxic human way of thinking, while the other is a religious explanation for our metaphysical earthly reality. The danger arises when the human cognitive distortion of black and white thinking applies itself rigidly to and misinterprets these theological constructs, leading to extremism within religious contexts. 

Let’s continually pray for the new Christians in Iran…and the old "Christians" on these Forums…and our few Living Years that remain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1eG6tGXRxQ&list=RDP1eG6tGXRxQ&start_radio=1