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Bob Wainner

David..............

Don't be shy about posting "current" photos of yourself........you STILL don't look your age.

Funny, Madalyn & I were discussing AGE the other night.....both of us wish we didn't have ANY younger photos of ourselves........it's sort of depressing......LOL. 

Madalyn is OK with my weating my hair in a longer style......after I got out of the U.S. Navy @ age 24, I swore I'd never cut my hair again.......so, over the years (and being in a design profession).....I think I've been able to get away with a longer hair style.  Madalyn is aging very gracefully.....IMO, she looks 8 to 10 yrs. younger than 74.  But part of her "youthfullness" is that she still has that beautiful smile, never knows a stranger and is a very positive person.

My Father always looked at least (10) years younger than he really was.......I "think" I actually got the best of both of my parent's genes......I got my Mom's nose & both of my parents had great hair...so, I got good "hair genes".

I still don't like "current" photos of myself.......being 75 is not always FUN.....but guess it beats the alternative, huh.

Bob

Bob Davidson

Lowell Tuttle

A few weeks ago I brought up that the openiing night at The Burning Bush was someone and Ron Knight said it was him.   I don't know the exact answer...apparently we had an opening night and a grand opening night and opening weekend, so who knows.

But, it brought me to contact Bob Ralph, who lives in Denton and is a Facebook friend of mine.   He responded with a smilar answer to above....

Now, a few weeks later he sends me this link, which I think is pretty cool.   It is 1st Presbyterian Church having an anniversary celebration (50th) of the Burning Bush founding.   I put the hyper link here...I did not attend the reunion.   I know Steve Healy did and Randy Combs.   Bob Reams appears in just about every photo.

I also noted that looking at all these photos every kid looks skinny.   I guess Dairy Queen was healthier than Churchs, McDonalds, Burger King, Whattaburger, et al these days...Or maybe it was Pizza Inn...

Whoops, inserted the Church link here...first, but both are viewable...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.58557046191&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.58554676191&type=3

I just saw this is facebook, so I don't know if the link will work...

Maybe we already saw these...It's been over 10 years here, so I don't remember

Wayne Gary

I never went to the Burning Bush. A little history. Befoe the Burning Bush it was a gun store. Befoe that in 1898 it ws the home of the station master of the Yexas and Houston Central RR and my dad's mother was born in the house brcause her father was the station master.

David Cordell

Bob D.

I think I have told this story.

Woman in her 50s goes to optometrist for the first time. Then she realizes that the optometrist was in her high school class, although he seems to have aged more than average. She says, "You may not remember me, but you were in my class at Richardson High School."

Optometrist answers, "Really? What did you teach?"

David Cordell

OK. I ponied up for the security certficate. The receipt says that it could take 48 hours to take effect. On my computer, a message pops up that suggests that the site is unsafe. I selected "Advanced", then something like "Go to site anyway."

The certificate doesn't make it safe. It just says that it is safe.

You can get to the site, but it may be more of a hassle. But if you are reading this, you probably know that already.

Never mind.

David Cordell

Great Burning Bush presentation from Bob Ralph. I wasn't a part of the BB crowd, but I did go to help in the construction once or twice. Main memory of that experience is those giant spools to be used as tables. It really was a wonderful student project. Kudos to Bob and others who were really involved!

You may remember that Bob played one of the leads in the senior class play, Inherit the Wind, based on the Scopes/Monkey trial. He played Matthew Harrison Brady, the part played by Frederick March in the movie and that was based on William Jennings Bryan.  Steve Ruback played the part of Henry Drummond, the part played by Spencer Tracy and based on Clarence Darrow.

Both Bob and Steve were excellent in the play, as were Mike Odom and Bryan Beuret and others.

I was an extra in the play -- maybe juror number 7. I think I sat behind David Seidler, so I wasn't even visible! I'm still waiting for my big show biz break!

Wayne Gary

I just heard this:

Evening news is where they begin with good evening and proceed to
tell you why it isn’t

Lowell Tuttle

One of those performing band photos may be The Wedge with David Weir and Michael Moore...

David Wier

I had an English teacher in our senior year that I've been racking my brain to remember her last name. She was an excellent teacher, but all I can remember (oddly enough) is her first name - Betty.

Anybody remember her last name?

David Wier

Wow Lowell!

I know we were friends in high school, but that's the first time anyone has actually remembered the band I was in, much less the name!
And yes, we played at the Burning Bush many times, as I remember it. I was there many other times. I was also in the Sunday School class when it was being stirred around as an idea. Yes, Bob Ralph was there and Mike Odom. Sharon Gibson was there too, but she was a 1970 grad.

I've tried to locate the other 2 guys in the band for years but I have given up on that. 

David Cordell

Bettye Martin?

Lowell Tuttle

David.   I don't think anyone in the History of the Burning Bush could ever forget that band that played Inna Gadda Da Vida with the 27 minute drum solo of Michael Moore.

The last time I saw him (unless I was at the Bush a bit later in life,) was when the two of us agreed to go to the Stones concert together.   That was 11 13 1969.   (I got that date from the web, shows that's the date the Stones played Dallas at Moody Collesium.)

I do not know how I still have good hearing.    Genes?

I just youtubed inna gadda da vida with headphones.

What musical memories that song is.   There were not just drums, but an awsome guitar using all the techno addons of the time...as well as some heavy keyboards...and a pretty strong baseline.

You should re listen with headphones.   They engineered the sound to twirl around your listening head...gradually going from left to right ear and back around.   So satisfying...

In the 1970/71 age when I was in town at parents in R, I would hook up with Rusty Shields, Pam Rodreick, and sometimes Pam Russell(Taylor) and we would run off to new friends discovered in Oak Lawn and hang at J Alfred's and any place we could get into at 18/19/20... Love field, etc...

One night Rusty, whose ashtray was full of rchs, and I were driving back to R up Blackburn, across Turtle Creek, left to Knox/Henderson, right through the center of Highland Park, and we made a detour over to SMU and McFarlin Auditorium where Iron Butterfly were in concert.   It was rather late, but we walked up to those greek revival style columns and were allowed into the Hall to witness them playing the end of the song.   I was mesmerized in the 5-10 minutes we stood there and watched.   

Led me down the Rock and Roll road of fandom presently on...

Let me take your hand...anda walk this land.

Ron Knight

Lowell and David on the Burning Bush

Sam Stevens and I opened with a long version of Alice's Restaurant, if that could be possible. The last group that played that night were from Arlington and covered Peter, Paul and Mary songs. And David, I don't know if you remember but one night at the Burning Bush we were upstairs and you showed me the chord progression of Simon and Garfunkel's America. I still play it that way today!!

Jim Bedwell

Lowell, 

I was in the balcony at that McFarlin Auditorium Iron Butterfly concert at SMU! I don't know the exact date of that show but I know it was in the spring of 1969. That's the only show I ever saw at McFarlin.

Lowell Tuttle

Jim.   Concert Archives website for both Iron Butterfly and McFarlin Auditorium show neither your nor my IB concert.   

As a matter of fact, I know I went to at least 5-6 concerts at McFarlin which are not shown.   

I saw Jeff Beck with Rod Stewart and Nicky Hopkins

Randy Newman and Ry Cooder

Several others.   But, Concert Archives only shows what "people" have listed.   The McFarlin list is way off...I know there were a bunch of shows all during the early 70's.

The IB concert archives folks say they were here in Feb of 1970 at Fair Park and in Fort Worth at the colesium.

It doesn't matter.   You went...I went...my memory is it was after our first year away from HS as we had gone down to visit our friends in Oak Lawn.   That's my memory, and it may be convoluted somewhat.

They played roughly 325 concerts from 1968 through 1970.   (It shows) one in Dallas, one in Ft. Worth, One in San Antonio, and one in Austin.   The one in Austin shows at the Memorial auditorium and the one in San Antonio shows at the Hemisphair arena.

It is surprising to me there are hardly any shows listed (remembered) from McFarlin.

Bob Davidson

David Cordell

Jasmine sounds like a phony. 

I've only known a couple of people who went to Rhodes, which is a good school. One of them is the son of of classmate Eileen Sullivan Milvenan and her husband Scot, but Ryan's years ddn't overlap Jasmine's. Too bad. I would like to have heard some inside info.

David Cordell

Supreme Court rules in favor of Trump -- against allowing 650+ Federal district court judges to issue nationwide injunctions. Case related to birthright citizenship, although I think that specific issue was sent back to the lower court.

Of course, I don't know what I'm talking about. Anyone who can explain in layman's layperson's terms is welcome to 'splain.

Lowell Tuttle

Birthright citizenship.    Past rulings have always said if you were born in the US, you are a citizen.

To prove citizenship, you show your birth certificate, you then can get a passport, and usually (although I was not give one when I was born) you get a social security number (if you were born in a hospital.)

So now, you have a Texas driver license with a star, you have a passport, you have a birth certificate showing you were born in Dallas, and you have a social security card.

But, your parents were born in another country?   You can't prove they were legal citizens?   Maybe they're dead.   In any case, your citizenship can somehow be revoked?

I am definitely against birth right citizenship being denied.   It's just plain meanness to go that way...it would obviously be arbitrary...There's tons of Canadians who came down here after the war and had kids...or Irish, or Asians...Who will they seek out.

Stop this insanity.

Going after birthright citizenship is just mean.

Ron Knight

"Death To America" is a slogan we've heard from extreme Islamic terrorists. But that's not where it first came from. It started years ago by the "Father of Jihadism and the Islamic State", Sayyid Qutb and his 1964 book called "Milestones". Qutb was an Egyptian born Muslim and educated at the University in Cairo and from 1948-1950 in the US. Look him up and check out his Hitler style mustache. His book was banned and in 1966 he was sentenced to death by hanging.

Over the past few weeks I decided I don't know enough about the Middle East and all of this Hamas, Gaza, Free Palestine, Anti-Semitism and the college protest on our country's campus's. So I took a deep dive into the subject and I am in shock how deep this rabbit hole is. The more I've researched the more deeply disturbing it is to me AND should be to ALL of you, regardless of political affiliation or religion. So, I hope my discovery will enlighten you.

I had to go back to the beginning to find that for thousands of years there have been religious wars throughout what is now called the Middle East and northern Africa. The conflict today is with Israel, Gaza, Southern Lebanon and Iran. I also discovered that there are NO true Palestinians, just Arabs. They were NEVER an indigenous society. DNA proves they are decendants from Syria, Jordan, Sudan and other areas that assimilated the people. 3,000 years ago the area of land where the conflicts are occuring was called Judeah (from Biblical times). And the territory was occupied by Jews and Arabs. Over the centuries different tribes in the region would impose their beliefs and go to war for those beliefs. At one time Egypt, around 3,150 BC, ruled the area. Then the Romans seized control around 30 BC. The Arabs and Jews had common enemies, but still would fight among themselves. For example, during that time the Canaanites ruled part of the territory and the Israelites conquered them. And there were the Babylonians and the Philistines ( ancient people of Canaan). After WW I the territory came into the hands of Great Britain who in 1937 first proposed seperate Jewish and Arab states. In 1947 the United Nations adopted a partition plan for Palestine leading to the 1948 war that established Israel as a nation. Egypt has occupied the area now known as the Gaza Strip and Jordan took control of East Jerusalem. In 1967 The Six Day War  occured and The West Bank and The Gaza Strip have been militarily occupied by Israel, becoming known as the Palestinian territories. The people of Palestine have been ruled by corrupt leaders after corrupt leaders leading up to the 2006 take over by Hamas and the situation we are in today.

Now let me return to Sayyid Qutb and where the most disturbing discoveries are that should alarm all of us today. Qutb's book "Milestones" is the Jihadist and Islamic State's doctrine of how to take over the world. Hamas, Houthis, Hezbollah and Al-Qaeda are the offspring of The Islamic State. Let me be perfectly clear, they want an Autocracy run by the Supreme leader and if you don't convert you will be killed. In 1979 the Iran Islamic State was born. I watched a long documentary titled "The Muslim Brotherhood" and it spells out exactly what we are seeing today. Interviewed were several current and former Al-Qaeda leaders. They are in this for the long term. They are using the US and Europe's compassion for humanity against us. They have formed over 500 non profits. Islamic Relief USA, Muslim American Society (MAS) and ICNA Relief are just a few of these non profits that our tax dollars flow into. Most of the money is funneled back to support terrorists and into the pockets of corrupt officials. How did Iran's Supreme  Leader amass $200 billion? Europe sent $100 million worth of pipes to restore waterlines for humanitarian purposes in Gaza. Hamas turned the pipes into missles and now are digging up water pipes in Gaza to also turn into missles to attack Israel. Hamas hates Israel and wants to wipe it off the face of the earth and kill every Jew they find. They want no Jew to live. Al-Qaeda leaders were interviewed saying they don't care how many years it will take, but they will control the world. They are doing it passively in some cases by sending people over to the US to become part of society and get into government. Now Ilhan Omar's political views become much clearer and her trip to attend a funeral of an Islamic leader. If I were Sec. Rubio, I would take a very close look at those students who have been part of the Hamas and Palestine protest against Jews on campus. The first step in the book "Milestones" is to protest first and if that doesn't work then violence to get their message across and that is where the Jihadists step in and the killing begins. I am NOT making this up, this is the doctrine, their plan to take over the world. THIS is NOT fearmongering. They are using our goodwill against us and will not stop until they reach their goal. I support Israel now more than ever. I have several Jewish friends and I apologize for me not taking a stronger stand with you. God bless Israel.

The prior 4 years under Biden was a literal Godsend to the Islamic State with the open borders. We have no idea how many terrorist cells are in our country just biding their time waiting for a directive to act. This is real folks, not hyperbole. Our college students are so misinformed over this. I am amazed that most don't understand what they are protesting. I've seen those carrying signs with "From the River to The Sea" and don't even know what that means. It means from the Jordan River to the Mediterranian Sea to clear the land of all  but Palestinians.If you look at the map that is exactly where Israel is today. Their map shows no Jews. We must put an end to these protest as vile and cease funding these non profits.

I am sorry for the length of this, but hope it clears up some questions you may have had and provides more understanding of what we are dealing with. There is so much more I could write, like an Islamic State President is now in charge of Egypt and other countries where there are political Islamics in Morroco and Libya. Wake up world!

PS

I failed to mention the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) from the 1970's and the horrors to the Israeli Olympic Team in 1972 that was murdered. My deepest apologies.

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

In almost every country, I believe if an American lady has a child born there, the baby is a citizen of the mother's country, not the foreign country.

I think that should be what happens in the US too.

There are WAY too many 'eight and one half months' pregnant women gaining entry to the US just before the births of their babies, for the express purpose of having their newborns in the US.  They deliberately take these actions JUST to have an anchor baby, which should be, in my opinion, illegal.  There have even been women from the Far East coming here near birth times, staying in hotels provided for them, just to be able to have their babies being given US citizenship.  This is a major scam maneuver to get the "perks" of US citizenship, which also enables these particular children to gain access for relatives coming here too, in later years of the newborn's life, if the child grows up here, and lives here permanently.

There is nothing "mean" about having laws to protect a country from nonsense advantage seekers.  It's just common sense, and the other countries of the world know it is common sense, which is why they, too, have these necessary laws.

Jim Bedwell

Lowell,

"Birthright citizenship", whether "mean" or not, is unconstitutional. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which was adopted July 9, 1868, says:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

This amendment was passed primarily so that the ex-slaves, especially THEIR children, would be citizens. Contrary laws in multiple states had culminated in the Dred Scott vs. Sandford decision in 1857, wherein the Supreme Court universally denied U.S. citizenship to slaves regardless of the jurisdiction of their birth. So this amendment was needed in the South after the Civil War to counteract and make illegal the Dred Scott decision and discriminatory laws found in the old Confederate states.

But the key part of the amendment is "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof", which means that non-citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of their home country and not that of the United States (although they do need to obey our laws), so that's why the babies born to aliens in the US or its territories are NOT automatically citizens. The Supreme Court needs to correct this FOR decades now since the flawed "birthright citizenship" has been unconstitutionally imposed on us.

And as Janalu points out, almost all countries (maybe all others?) do not have this self-imposed, incorrect idea of "birthright citizenship" in force in their countries. Lawyer Mark Levin has discussed this in detail on his show. When a person never watches Fox News Channel, he/she misses out on TONS of pertinent info.

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

I was just hearing on our local radio station, KLBJRadio, that evidently, Justice Amy Coney Barrett agrees with me, when having definitive opinions of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.  Ms. Barrett gave Ketanji an earful about HER lack of understanding the laws of this country and her desire to insert her opinions or points of view in a mixed way with the actual laws. I found Justice Barrett's comments enlightening and rather amusing.  It is alarming to know that Ketanji Jackson will be on the Court for a very long time......ugh.

Wayne Gary

Here is what is on Washington AP about "birthrite citizenship"

"Birthright citizenship automatically makes anyone born in the United States an American citizen, including children born to mothers in the country illegally. The right was enshrined soon after the Civil War in the Constitution’s 14th Amendment.

In a notable Supreme Court decision from 1898, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the court held that the only children who did not automatically receive U.S. citizenship upon being born on U.S. soil were the children of diplomats, who have allegiance to another government; enemies present in the U.S. during hostile occupation; those born on foreign ships; and those born to members of sovereign Native American tribes.

The U.S. is among about 30 countries where birthright citizenship — the principle of jus soli or “right of the soil” — is applied. Most are in the Americas, and Canada and Mexico are among them. "

I have a cousin who was born in France while his father was in the Air Force deployed to France and he had dual citixenship , US and France.

I have a Great-nephew that was born in Canada while his father was working there.  Both parents are US citizens and he has dual citizenship.