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07/23/24 09:28 PM #30407    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Reminder.   Fox had to pay 750,000,000 fine for mis information.   And, stated under oath that they are not a News provider, but are simply entertainment.


07/24/24 12:12 AM #30408    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David Cordell!

Happy Birthday To You!

Have a delightful day!

Didn't Martha request bowling on her birthday?   Will you do the same?


07/24/24 08:26 AM #30409    

 

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

RATHER FIGHT THAN SWITCH

 

 

 

 

 

Tommy,

As a realist, I’m sure you realize that Trump IS the GOP nominee…by the vote of the People. Wishful thinking about changing POTUS requirements is just that...wishful.

As you recall, age (along with cognitive health)  are GOP issues levied against Biden…deflected by the DEMs…and now gaslighted by you/DEMs against Trump. I know you’re too smart to follow the "shiny object syndrome” deflection trick that some gullible uneducated voters have repeatedly swallowed.

 

And now here comes Kamala, with $100M given to her campaign in only 5 days (stated that came from small individual donors like you and me), do you believe she will run a credible campaign based on her successful policy record?

 

With no age issues, do you have confidence in her charisma to defeat Trump?

 

 

 

Lowell,

I applaud your willingness to ‘self-assess” and reevaluate your opinion of Trump as being evil…and that your ongoing bias against him may actually betray your own bias.

As Wayne might ask regarding your emotional irrationality, what have you, Tommy, and Jan been smoking…that makes you rather fight than switch?

 

Happy birthday David, hope it’s a fun day cool by the pool!

 

 

Sandra,

interesting post about Putin and evil dictators.

 

Conflating Putin's life with Trump's only succeeds when paranoid-emotional DEM voters fall again for false narratives that flow from the Steele dossier BuzzFeed.

Please tell us that you've outgrown that lie.

 

Math doesn't lie...and is elegant by its design.

 

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07/24/24 08:29 AM #30410    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Kurt,

In no way did I interpret your post as being snippy to me.  You have always treated any response to my posts with complete respect and sound reasoning.  I hope you feel I have treated you  in the same way. I have been silent for the last couple days to take a bit of a rest from all the broohaha that has emerged from the latest twist in the Presidential election.  Secondly, I wanted to get my thoughts together on just why I came up with my conspiracy theory concerning Trump, Viktor Orbon and Valdimir Putin. 

My husband meditates to control the pain he still has in his back.  Although this pain is most times diminished considerably, at times it flairs up to a high degree and meditation really helps him cope.  To that end, he uses an app to meditate, called Waking Up.  Sam Harris promotes this app.  My husband swears by it.  Not only has it helped with pain, but the depression that sometimes accompanies it when the pain drags on.  Sam Harris also has podcasts.  He interviews lots of folks on his podcasts and Danny is a big fan of that too.

Danny recommended a podcast to me.  I don't normally listen to podcasts.  But this one I did.  It was a Podcast from Sam Harris and he was interviewing Anne Applebaum about her most recent book and the podcast was entitled, "Why Democracies Fail".  The book she was referring to in the podcast is:  Autocracy, Inc., The Dictators Who Want to Rule the World

For those of you who want to shoot down my choices of information as too liberal, or that my sources are not "qualified" enough, please ignore this post.  Anne is an American Journalist, Historian and a Pulitzer Prize winner.  She is a member of the board on The Washington Post.  Elite intellectual.  I get it.  I do however think she knows her stuff and done her research.  Period.  You don't have to point out that you think differerntly.  I get it.  You get your information from sources you like.  Well so do I.

Now back to my point.

Anne has done considerable research into Putin's career, and specifically how he got so very very rich.  He skimmed off the state, stole money, laundered it and put it in off shore banks.  Amazon has a pretty good summary of what is in her book, which I have captioned below:

We think we know what an autocratic state looks like: There is an all-powerful leader at the top. He controls the police. The police threaten the people with violence. There are evil collaborators, and maybe some brave dissidents.

But in the 21st century, that bears little resemblance to reality. Nowadays, autocracies are underpinned not by one dictator, but by sophisticated networks composed of kleptocratic financial structures, surveillance technologies, and professional propagandists, all of which operate across multiple regimes, from China to Russia to Iran. Corrupt companies in one country do business with corrupt companies in another. The police in one country can arm and train the police in another, and propagandists share resources and themes, pounding home the same messages about the weakness of democracy and the evil of America.

International condemnation and economic sanctions cannot move the autocrats. Even popular opposition movements, from Venezuela to Hong Kong to Moscow, don't stand a chance. The members of Autocracy, Inc, aren't linked by a unifying ideology, like communism, but rather a common desire for power, wealth, and impunity. In this urgent treatise, which evokes George Kennan's essay calling for "containment" of the Soviet Union, Anne Applebaum calls for the democracies to fundamentally reorient their policies to fight a new kind of threat.

Now back to my theory:  After listening to the podcast, thinking back to how Trump admires Viktor Orban (his policies in Hungary are very similar to those propposed in Project 2025) and his recent visit and meeting not only with Trump at Mar-a-lago, but Putin, I just put two and two together.    Wealth, and Power.  This is Trumps dream.  He constantly demands attention, he courts dictatorships, he wants to shut down our support for Ukraine and he praises both these guys, more than once.  You do the math.  

I tried not to be snippy nor ironic. 

 

 


07/24/24 08:39 AM #30411    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Happy Birthday David!


07/24/24 09:35 AM #30412    

 

David Cordell

Benjamin Franklin was over 80 when he voted "aye" in the Constitutional Conventin. But most of those who voted for the Constitution were much younger. Madison was 36. Hamilton was 32. I wonder if a maximum age for being elected president was not addressed out of respect to the older people in the group, especially Franklin. Or if it just didn't seem to be an issue because no one imagined that it would be a problem.

With regard to Trump and Biden --

Trump is younger in years, but way, way younger in mental acuity. Both Trump and Biden are old, but Biden is OLD. You may hate Trump for his views and personal characteristics, but age is the least of his detriments.


07/24/24 09:39 AM #30413    

 

David Cordell

Thanks, Sandra. Feeling great!

Very sorry about Danny's continued back struggles. Nothing happens without the back. Please pass along my best wishes for improvement.


07/24/24 10:24 AM #30414    

 

David Cordell

Biden versus Trump in golf --

I haven't seen Biden play, but here's something about Trump's game. Of course he owns several highly rated golf courses.

US Open winner Bryson DeChambeau has a YouTube channel, and one of the things he does is a challenge to beat 50. He and a partner play a scramble, i.e. both players hit a drive, and for the rest of the hole, they both play from the spot of the better shot. DeChambeau has done this with several people, including Sergio Garcia. It is a fundraiser ($10,000 per birdie), and they play from the forward (formerly "ladies") tees. The goal is to break 50.

This video is DeChambeau playing with Trump, very recently, at Trump's Bedminster course in New Jersey. Let's just say that I have played golf with several RHS classmates, and Trump is better than any of them with the exception of Don Chester, who was club champion at Gleneagles Country Club in Plano. You can tell that Trump is a good golfer, albeit with an ugly swing, in the first couple of shots.



 

 


07/24/24 11:41 AM #30415    

 

Wayne Gary

Tommy,

You said " don't see how any reasonable person who looks out for the best interests of our country could disagree with having both a minimum and maximum age restriction on who can occupy the office of the President of the United States. It just makes good common sense."

I will not comment because there are 2 issues I have.

First your "common sense" is perfect. Any other opinoins are not acceptble to you.

Second: we are both over 65 and must have dimished mental capabilities.

Why make any comments.


07/24/24 01:55 PM #30416    

 

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

I'll probably come on down for the Heights reunion.  I loved the lunch ladies but admit a hot September day first grade I was stumped upon reaching the iced tea and the lunch lady stopping me saying those were only for the teachers.  

Did they serve sloppy joes at Heights or RHS?

   


07/24/24 02:24 PM #30417    

Jim Bedwell

David,

Happy birthday. Wow, you're old now! Also Trump is not too old to serve since his brain is intact whereas we know that Biden's is not capable obviously. I don't support age restrictions but it would be nice if Joe had been given a cognitive test - he would have failed that likely before the 2020 election but Trump has passed two of those, the first of which he didn't miss anything, from what I heard. I do support term limits for the national Congress - we need true representatives, not just career politicians that are too tempted to devolve into self-serving roles, as they seem to do for way too many of them.

Sandra,

Back pain is AWFUL from what I understand. My best friend from Dealey Elementary in Dallas, Robin Siler, killed himself in 2005 at 54 since his surgeries didn't alleviate the pain. He waited until his parents were both gone before doing so. I saw a documentary on Howard Hughes and after his worst plane wreck into Beverly Hills, he was on pain medication the rest of his life so about 30 years. The doctor on the documentary was amazed that he lasted so long - he said usually people kill themselve long before that due to the horrible pain. I'll be praying for your husband as I do for many others daily.


07/24/24 02:32 PM #30418    

 

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

CLASSY



Wayne and David,

While repeatedly attacking Tommy and ignoring me may be sport to you both, it reflects a lack of class.

For the good of the Class, kindly cease your indiscriminately and unnecessarily mean comments toward us.


You're both too classy to hold grudges...we all deserve better.


Thanks!


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07/24/24 02:40 PM #30419    

Jim Bedwell

Hannity started going into Kamala's positions on things last night. Frightening to say the least although I had already heard most if not all of it before.

She supports taxpayer money for illegal aliens' universal health care along with all the other bennies they're currently receiving unconstitutionally. There's just not enough money in the entire world to support all that. As the late sage, economist Walter Williams, said, "The first law of economics is scarcity. And the first law of politics is to ignore the first law of economics." There's NEVER enough of ANYTHING to fulfill ALL human demand.

She wants to end fossil fuel use like all the rest of the Marxists.

She contributed to bail fund money funds to release criminals from prison, many of whom went back to reoffending as criminals usually do.

She was rated the most extreme, to the left, Senator when she "served" in that role, even to the left of her fellow Marxist Bernie Sanders. Don't know if that also included Representatives of the House. She, Soros, and Bernie are all in lock step with their Marxist leader Obama.

So that was just the tip of the iceberg that Hannity talked about yesterday.

If she gets elected (that will be Obama IV), then that will be the final nail in the coffin of our republic and it will only get worse from there, as the country (and world) continues to deteriorate a la California, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Camden, Flint, etc. ad nauseum.

Like Benjamin Franklin said, and it bears repeating here since I've mentioned it before, "Once the people discover that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." Amen, brother......that's been going on for MANY decades now. The upcoming election really is the most crucial point of our nation's history, and will affect the world greatly as well. So it's up to us to decide between the increasingly polarizing & evident divide between good and evil.


07/24/24 06:57 PM #30420    

Kurt Fischer

Sandra:

Thanks for the thoughtful note back.  While I am in agreement with your assessment of Orban and Putin, you and I have different thoughts on Mr Trump.  I believe we will continue to have different thoughts, but I appreciate the transparency and depth of your note.

Take care.


07/24/24 07:21 PM #30421    

Jan Alexander

An up close and personal story about Trump in his developer/ realtor days , I just learned from a “X’s” family member .interesting. 

 This person worked for a restoration company.. … Trump had bought a big old building in Washington D. C.  and was  renovating it into condos.  This person’s company put a bid into a part of the project and actually won the bid..  they got the call of the notice and said the Trump's team was sending them the contract to review.  Meanwhile , Trump’s representatives also called them and said Trump would be calling them to negotiate the price of the bid…

The company’s boss and team said to themselves , “wait a minute the bid price was the bid price”… mean time their attorney looked over the contract .  Ofcourse , there were about 19 other contractors for various other parts of the construction , plumbers , electricians etc… who put in bids,as well.

Any who , the lawyer noticed in small print under “liquidated damages”.. if any of the contractors didn’t finish their portion of the work in the bid's stated timeline , all the contractors would be docked / fined  under the liquidation  damages clause….. in other words ,  if one contractor screwed up , they all had to pay for the screw up , as stated under the liquated damages clause. 

Not only that , Trump was going to call and tell them to knock down their bid , more.

Their lawyer said , "don’t walk away but run the heck away from the deal."

Please note, you are hearing from a woman's verbiage, I am sure there is a better man's way to tell this story with Home depot verbiage.. but you get the point..  ..  

You all have heard about his past history of not paying for development work in the past..:  :

Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters, dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay them for their work.

That's your guy..


07/24/24 09:31 PM #30422    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Viktor Orban has an interesting history.   For one, Hungary is sort of now a "Nationalist" European country brought on by (am I right on this?) Islamic/middle eastern migration.   

Orban returned to Hungary to get into politics in 1989 after the USSR collapsed.

He was going to Oxford.   Courtesy of....George Soros...

Hungary only has 9 million people.   Less than Houston and Dallas areas together.

 


07/25/24 12:47 AM #30423    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

I was just listening to Morgan Ortagus speak about how she felt it was disgraceful for Kamala Harris to go to a sorority gathering, rather than going to hear Netanyahu, Prime Minister of our strongest ally, speak to the US Congress, as she should have respectfully done.  Morgan said Harris didn't go because she (Harris) is afraid of upsetting the extreme far-left wing of the Democrat Party, that wing (mainly 'The Squad,' but others too, like Elizabeth Warren) that does not support Netanyahu or Israel.

This does not bode well for her beginning posture.


07/25/24 05:49 AM #30424    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Lowell,

Republicans really love Vikor Orbon.  He spoke at CPAC.

 


07/25/24 07:25 AM #30425    

 

Wayne Gary

Tommy,

I do ot try to debate you as you have already made up your mind that you are right and cannot change your mind.


07/25/24 07:57 AM #30426    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

I know it is coming.....so I will try to get ahead of it.

Twenty Celebrities Who Failed the Bar Exam

Interesting factoid.  50% of those taking the bar exam in California fail it the first time.  The percentage is much lower in other states.  The California Bar Exam must be harder to pass.  Kamala passed it the second time.

 


07/25/24 08:42 AM #30427    

 

David Cordell

From a trivia site.

There is a large statue in fron of the Port Authority Bus Terminal in New York. Guess the name of the person represented by the statue. Answer below.

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Answer: Outside New York's Port Authority Bus Terminal stands a statue of Jackie Gleason, the actor who brought the iconic character Ralph Kramden to life in the classic television show "The Honeymooners." In tribute to Gleason's unforgettable role, the retro cable channel TV Land installed a 4,000-pound bronze statue of the famed bus driver at the world's busiest bus terminal. Unveiled in 2000, the statue celebrates the cultural impact of the show and its beloved main character, who worked for the fictional Gotham Bus Company.

 


07/25/24 08:46 AM #30428    

 

Wayne Gary

Tommy,

After you said   don't see how any reasonable person who looks out for the best interests of our country could disagree      Any  other views I have would be like pissing into a fan with you.  You have inferred only your viws and "common sence" are the only correct ones.


07/25/24 08:52 AM #30429    

 

David Cordell

A reminder of what is at the top of the Message Forum Page:

The Message Forum is an ongoing dialogue among classmates. The goal is to encourage friendly interaction, including interaction among classmates who really didn't know each other. Experience on the site has revealed that certain topics tend to cause friction and hard feelings, especially politics and religion. 

Although politics and religion are not completely off-limits, classmates are asked to be positive in their posts and not to be too repetitive or allow a dialog to degenerate into an argument. 

It is important not to allow discussion to devolve to personal insults or attacks based on another classmate's beliefs and/or opinions.


07/25/24 09:03 AM #30430    

 

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

RAY DALIO’s AMERICA  - 

The Changing Odds of a Great Conflict in America




 

Thanks Tommy, Jan, and Sandra for the nice anti-Trump YouTube…I had a good chuckle!

Although humorous as political sarcasm, it is deadly serious in redefining the deep divide in the USA…and the underlying stakes of an emerging Civil War… deferred only by last week’s failed assassination of Donald Trump.

If the bullet had found its target…there would be blood in the streets in every city across the USA.

 

Ray Dalio explains how it is imminent in the coming months:

 

As you might remember, I believe that there are five major forces shaping our world:

.Debt/money/economy force

.Internal order and disorder force due to wealth and values differences

.External order and disorder force (due to the great power conflicts that occur when the dominant power is no longer dominant)

.Force of nature (droughts, floods, and pandemics, with climate change now being the biggest force)

.Man’s inventiveness, especially of new technologies (with AI now being the most important one).

 

They appear to be taking us into a time of great disorder.

I have a template for understanding these forces and comparing current events to historical patterns. Right now, I think the biggest risk in 2024 is domestic disorder, which could significantly impact the other forces and increase internal conflict.

 

The Changing Odds of a Great Conflict in America

Ray Dalio

Ray Dalio 

Founder, CIO Mentor, and Member of the Bridgewater Board

July 23, 2024

This post was originally published yesterday in TIME. As events are moving quickly, I have updated it slightly below.

As I have written previously, based on my study of history, America is approaching the point in the big cycle of internal order/politics where people should be prepared for the arrival of increased conflict, potentially even some form of civil war. The last month has brought about a number of important developments, so I’m sharing this new post to update you on how the odds of conflict are shifting and what we might anticipate in the weeks and months ahead.

But before I get into what I think, I want to make it clear that

1) I am painting the picture as I see it now, albeit with what some might call an exaggerated vividness, and that

2) I am not giving you my assessment of the good and bad of the players or telling you what I think they should do. I am trying to paint a vivid and accurate picture of what is now happening and show it within a historical context because I see it as one of the great historical dramas that have repeatedly happened for logical, but seemingly crazy, reasons throughout history.

Also, I truly believe that it would be a presumptuous mistake for me to cloud the picture with my own judgments and give opinions about what others (whose shoes I am not in) should do. At other times, but not now, I will describe how I assess people and their actions, and when I do that, I will be equally clear that I am just sharing my own opinions.

 

The Developments That Have Changed the Tactical Picture but Not the Strategic Direction

A lot has changed in the last month as a result of the debate, the assassination attempt, the Republican convention, and President Biden dropping out of the race.  

Most importantly they are:

The debate undermined the people's trust in President Biden's capabilities and the forthrightness and capabilities of the Democratic Party.  Many people were asking: how could the Democrats have hidden Biden's condition and its implications for his presidency and why didn’t they have the strength and forthrightness to deal with the situation swiftly and well? 'Is this bad management that is representative of how they run things?' is now commonly asked.

 

The assassination attempt brought the country a quarter of an inch away from some type of civil war. Chaos would have occurred because of anger and violence being in the air at the same time as the leaders of both parties would have been out of the picture, so there would have been no clear path to agreeing on the country's leadership.  Instead, "by a miracle," Trump and the country appeared "touched by God" to some and Trump appeared a strong fighter to most everyone.  The contrast with the frail President Joe Biden was striking.

 

The Republican convention conveyed a picture of a united, strong, and thoughtful common man’s nationalistic and fundamentalistic party rather than a Republican Party that a few weeks before appeared made up of both a) “unhinged extremists” and b) “old-school rich elitists and businessmen who would keep doing what they have been doing which has led us to where we now are." 

At the convention, Trump was clearly adored by the Republicans around him and he even appeared lovable to many viewers. The pictures of him in the booth with his family and granddaughter smiling on his lap and so many other images throughout the convention, engendered feelings, among some viewers, that he was a likable demi-God to be carried on the people's shoulders into leadership for God and country.

These developments reduced the odds of a close and contested Trump-loss scenario, which is the highest risk scenario for some type of civil war, and shifted in favor of a big Republican-Trump win followed by a dominant and controlling Republican-Trump government.

However, while the odds of a close Trump loss have gone down, they haven't gone to zero and, it should be recognized that if a close Trump loss occurs the odds of a big fight happening are even higher because the Democrats denying Donald Trump the presidency would be, to many Republicans, akin to Democrats preventing the second coming of Christ.

Now, attention shifts to the Democrats which brings us to the fourth big development:

President Biden dropping out of the race for president has left the Democrats with choices between "the coronation" path (Biden and the party anointing Harris as the nominee) or the "mini-primary" path (having the leading candidates fight it out for the nomination). How the factious sides of the Democratic Party handle this will be an important test and will determine whether the race will be close this fall. The Democrats have quickly gathered around Kamala Harris, but we will see whether they will be as unified as the unified Republicans.

The bigger picture is that we can be confident that the country will remain deeply divided by irreconcilable differences and the biggest question that will remain until after the election is whether the domestic order in which election results and the tripartite constitutional system of rules will be respected in the face of seemingly irreconcilable differences.  

The developments of the last month have moved the odds in favor of the election of Trump-led, ultra-conservative, nationalist, protectionist, isolationist, God-fearing administration which Republicans will certainly accept and Democrats will probably accept reluctantly. This reduces the likelihood of a contested election-prompted civil war, but it is not a sure outcome and if the Democrats are able to manage the transition of candidates well and Trump loses as a result, it is probable that we will see some form of civil war. By the way, the markets are increasingly reflecting this shift.

It's the Ideology, Not the Person, that Matters

While a lot of attention is being given to who the candidates are and how much they are liked, it's important to realize that they are more representative of ideologies (i.e. either moderate or hard left or moderate or hard right) and that the votes will be more for or against those ideologies than the people.  You can see and easily anticipate how people are lining up behind the candidates by knowing how they would make that choice. 

For example, it is clear that the urban, liberal globalists are lining up against the rural, conservative, God-fearing nationalists; more than it's simply Trump supporters lining up against Harris and her supporters.   

It is now pretty clear what Trump and the Republicans are for: they are hard-right. People say they don't know what Kamala Harris is for because we haven't seen her stress-tested, but it won't matter much because people know that she is left of center--and based on who is supporting her (as well as what she has said), people will be inclined to assume that she is pretty left of center.

Knowing how politics works, one might assume that to capture the most votes possible she will be inclined to pick an obviously more moderate running mate who will help in the swing states by sounding more moderate than extreme left. 

However, that won't change the fact that the election battle will be between the definitively hard right and some vaguely defined left.  You can see how people are now lining up along those lines, and I suspect that, when you make your choice, it will be on that basis.

To repeat, what I am sharing is just the state of play as I see it.  Stay tuned.

May you live in interesting times and have good principles for dealing with them.

 

PS- This analysis is my own and isn't a reflection of the views of Bridgewater.

 

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07/25/24 09:51 AM #30431    

 

David Cordell

About bias in the press. Here is a Newsweek headline: 

Donald Trump Misses 12 Putts Playing Golf With Bryson DeChambeau

Really? This is the headline? This is the major aspect of the golf game? Trump played well, and together they  were 22 under par in 18 holes. They raised $220,000 for the Wounded Warrior project. 

The funny thing about the headline is that Trump always putted first. Now, if Trump putted first and missed 12 putts, how many did he make? I would love to have six one-putts, especially when they are from distances determined by a full approach shot, not a chip. Further, DeChambeau got to see the line by watching Trump's putts. There was no mention of Trump's drives, for example. Neither did the article mention that he birdied one of the holes on his own ball. In other words, playing with the reigning U.S. Open champion in a scramble, they played Trump's drive and Trump's approach shot. Then Trump sank the putt.

I wonder what the headline would have been if it had been Biden, or any other Democrat, who played in the challenge instead of Trump.

This seems to be a small matter, but maybe that makes it more important if we draw an inference. If Newsweek, i.e. mainstream media,  would (inappropriately) denigrate Trump on a small matter, what can we expect on the big issues?

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-misses-12-putts-golf-bryson-dechambeau-1929602#:~:text=%22Edit%3A%20To%20confirm%20and%20clear,%2C%20PA%2C%22%20DeChambeau%20said.


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