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07/22/24 01:30 PM #30382    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Ya'll wanna hear my conspiracy theory??  Victor, Valamir and Trump are interested in only two thngs:  Power and Money.  Nothing else.  The meeting was to discuss the division of the spoils of the war in Ukraine once Trump takes power and he gives Russia the green light.  They both run kelptocracies.  They steal money from the state, hide it in foreign banks and foreign real estate.  Putin and his oligarchs have done this for decades.  Trump has is eyes on the prize!


07/22/24 01:38 PM #30383    

 

David Cordell

Trump --

1) Stupidly veered away from what would have been a universally praised acceptance speech, and instead wandered into a foolish, rambling rally speech with the same ol' same ol'. This was a chance to show himself in a positive way to a national audience with potential to change some minds, but he blew it. He should have stuck with the script, but he can't help himself.

2) Stupidly piled on when Biden bowed out. Instead of the same ol' "Crooked Joe" comments, he should have said something like, "Although we disagree on a multitude of issues, I have no doubt that Joe Biden spent his career doing what he believed was in the best interest of this country. His withdrawal from the campaign shows that he realizes that it is in the best interest of this country for him to concentrate on being president without the distraction of a political campaign. We thank him for his service."

If Trump had stuck with the script in his acceptance speech and given a positive statement about Biden's withdrawal, commentators would be asking if the assassination attempt had made a real change in him. Instead, he gets negative press, including in the editorial pages of The Wall Street Journal.

He reinforced what his enemies think, and pissed off lots of supporters by continuing to be a jackass. Sometimes I think he needs a shock collar.


07/22/24 01:44 PM #30384    

Jim Bedwell

David,

While I don't agree totally with your strong rebuke of our Donald, I do agree that he shouldn't have spoken so long, including the rambling, and that he did revert to the old Trump. Also I kept hearing about the new changed Donald on FNC, but he seemed like the same guy to me, which unlike you, I personally don't mind at all. But I do agree with you that he SHOULD change somewhat to help his cause - likely won't happen.


07/22/24 02:07 PM #30385    

 

David Cordell

Sandra,

I'm pretty sure that you are a bit off-base in your analysis.

In 2015 Trump was on top of the world. Since he announced for the presidency, every left-of-center commentator has done everthing possible, including gigantic lies that they never recanted, to ruin him, and every left-wing prosecutor has tried to bury him in legal expenses. 

Biden is the guy who got rich "in service" to this country.

Not only that, Biden is the one who has tried to undermine the Supreme Court by talk of packing it and has defied it with regard to student loans. 

Who is trying to be a dictator?

Which political party wants to get rid of democracy? Might it be the one whose elites decided to push out the guy who got all the votes in the primaries?


07/22/24 03:06 PM #30386    

 

David Cordell

This was in a genealogy publication; reproduced with approval of the author.

Lifestyles in the Seventeenth Century

19 Jul 2024 

Warning: You might want to hold your nose before reading this.

We all have read history books about the brave and noble heroes who helped shape today's world. Hearty explorers, brave immigrants, exemplary church-goers and the like did indeed create today's modern world. Yet these same history books rarely describe the everyday world of those heroes and heroines. Sometimes their lives were not all fame and glory. In fact, their lives were often repulsive by today's standards. I thought I would focus for a bit on everyday life in the 1600s in Europe, in England, and in the newly-created colonies in North America.

In fact, knowledge was a scarce commodity in the seventeenth century. It is difficult for us to comprehend just how ignorant people were. Most Europeans knew nothing about geography and didn't know or care what happened on the other side of the horizon. The majority of people never traveled more than five miles from their place of birth although there were a few more adventurous soles in those days. 

Only a small number of people could read or write or even count beyond one hundred. Even the kings of the seventeenth century were mostly illiterate. Most common citizens could not tell the time of day, and only a few could read a calendar. Most of our ancestors of those times did not know what year it was, much less when their own birthdays occurred. You will notice that official documents of the day usually refer to a person as being "about 45 years old," for example. The reason is that few people knew their exact age. Birthdays went unnoticed by a population that could not read a calendar.

Symbols were used to identify status and trades in the days before many people could read or write: eminent people had coats of arms to identify themselves, especially in battle, where it was important that they didn't get skewered in mistake for someone else. Tradesmen had more-or-less standardized signs; the barber/surgeon's red-and-white striped pole, for example, identified his calling. Pawn shops (very common in those days) displayed three spheres suspended from a bar. A tailor shop/clothier often had a wooden scissors and large needle carved in a wood panel for a sign.

The same people knew nothing about almost everything. They had no idea how their bodies worked - why they breathed, urinated or defecated, felt hungry or sick, or had a temperature. No one understood why they gasped for oxygen after heavy exercise. In fact, no one knew what oxygen was, not even the most learned men of the time. 

People lived a cold, hungry, and uncomfortable existence. Central heating was unknown, even amongst the wealthy. Kings, queens, and members of the nobility lived in cold, drafty, stone castles. The peasants lived in equally cold and drafty huts.

Filth lay all around, and disease lurked in the hovels that most people called home. In cities such as London and Paris, raw sewage ran in the streets. Chamber pots were emptied into the streets in front of homes and shops or in the side alleys. There were no sewers. Horses were everywhere, as was horse manure. One can only imagine the aromas on a hot summer day. 

For just one example, read the Wikipedia entry about “The Great Stink” in the summer of 1858 in London at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stink. Keep in mind that 1858 wasn’t all that long ago; things were much worse in earlier years.

Wealthy individuals carried handkerchiefs drenched with perfume to hold to their noses when the aromas were especially bad. Common folks could not afford such luxuries as perfume or even handkerchiefs.

Along with all of this came a large population of flies, rodents, and other disease-carrying pests. Clean water was unheard of in the cities and wasn't all that common even in the countryside. Most people drank tea or beer as their preferred beverage as both were much safer than the available water of the time. With the high germ count and lack of sanitation, it is a wonder that anyone survived, especially as no one at the time knew what a germ count was.

Ever since the Romans had departed from Britain centuries before, people rarely washed themselves. The churches considered it un-Christian to bathe. Eventually, Christians were prohibited from bathing naked and, overall, the church began to not approve of “excessive” indulgence in the habit of bathing.

Queen Elizabeth I was ahead of her time in that she had a flush toilet installed, and she wrote in 1598 that she even bathed once a month, whether she needed it or not. The vast majority of commoners washed up very rarely. This was due both to a widespread fear of catching the Black Plague in public baths and to a general shortage of wood for heating water throughout most of Europe at the time. Members of the upper classes tended to cut down their full body bathing habits down to around a few times per year, striking a balance between risk of acquiring a disease from the bath versus body stench. 

Most citizens, especially the men, never bathed.  During this time, people tended to restrict their hygienic arrangements to just washing hands, parts of the face, and rinsing their mouths. Washing one’s entire face was thought to be dangerous as it was believed to cause catarrh (an excessive build-up of thick phlegm or mucus) and weaken the eyesight, so even this was infrequent.

Many never bathed at all. The majority of the population just stank to high heaven.  Actually, there was a practical reason for this: by the Renaissance, Europe's water supply had become contaminated with sewage, and bathing could expose one to disease. Perhaps it was safer to not bathe.

Many people did wash their faces and hands frequently but rarely washed their entire bodies. Most only owned one set of clothes, and they ate in those clothes, slept in them, and labored in them for months without washing or changing the garments. 

As to toilets, I'll leave that to your imagination. In any case, flush toilets simply did not exist in the Seventeenth Century. Unlike the common myth, flush toilets were not invented by Thomas Crapper. Instead, The flushing toilet actually was invented by John Harrington in 1596. However, flushing toilets did not become popular until after Crapper set himself up as a sanitary engineer, with his own brass foundry and workshops, in 1861. In the 1880s, Prince Edward (later Edward VII) purchased his country seat of Sandringham House in Norfolk and asked Thomas Crapper & Co. to supply the plumbing, including thirty lavatories with cedarwood seats and enclosures, thus giving Crapper his first Royal Warrant. Britons then started to take notice of this new-fangled flush toilet. In the United States, the first flushable toilet was installed in the White House was installed in 1825 but very few Americans knew about it. In the 1850s, the wealthy Davis family of Natchez, Mississippi, installed something few other Americans possessed: indoor hot-and-cold running water and an indoor toilet.

Of course, dental care was unknown, and most adults had rotten teeth or no teeth at all. Many Europeans who could afford spices chewed cloves in order to mask the smell of decaying teeth. Most people, however, could not afford the luxury of cloves. 

Underarm deodorants had not yet been invented. Indeed, nobody ever thought there was a need for such deodorants.

Think of the dirtiest-looking and most unkempt characters you have ever seen in a movie depicting seventeenth century England or North America. The reality is that most people looked like that or worse. Yes, that includes your ancestors and mine. 

While modern movies all depict Europe's royalty as living in spotlessly clean castles and attending elegant balls with obviously well-scrubbed courtesans, history suggests a different scene. In fact, even the royals did not bathe regularly. Perfumes drowned the stench of a courtier's lady. Hair was often uncombed; a powdered wig covered it in any case. 

Rush Floors Made People Vulnerable To Infection And Disease

The homes of the working classes in medieval times were mostly dirt, although hard packed from years of use. Wealthier citizens had floors made of wood while royalty mostly had stone floors. In most homes, rushes (reed-like plants such as cat-tails) and threshes (straw) were used to cover the floors.  That's where we got the modern word threshold, meaning a doorsill that help keep the threshes inside the room rather than escaping outdoors.

We might think the frequent replacement of rushes or threshes would keep the room sanitary. However, Erasmus, a Medieval Catholic scholar, wrote this first-hand description of rushes: “Rushes [are] occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for twenty years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned.”

Refrigeration obviously was unknown, and Louis Pasteur had not yet educated the world about the dangers of germs. Nobody knew what a germ was. Most food was handled in a manner that would be offensive today. Spices were used to kill the smell and flavor of decaying meat – which was then eaten as a matter of course. 

One experience that has been heavily studied is the voyage of the Mayflower in 1620, eventually landing in what is now called Plymouth. The ship was like a floating slum. The crowded living conditions, the meager diet, never being able to bathe or stay dry, and having to wear the same wet, cold clothes for two months all undermined the health of the Pilgrims. Most of the passengers were coughing and sick. The Mayflower was built as a cargo ship, not as a passenger ship with proper accommodations. The Pilgrims simply huddled on deck or in the holds below, often sleeping with the pigs, goats, and poultry on board for warmth. There were no beds. Temperatures in the North Atlantic in November and December drove most of them inside, into the crowded holds, where people and livestock crowded together for warmth. Below decks, any person over five feet tall would be unable to stand up straight. The maximum possible space for each person would have been slightly less than than today’s size of a standard single bed.

The air in the crowded quarters must have been nauseating at best and usually simply staggering. The passengers were never warm and dry.

The Pilgrims thought it was dangerous to wash their bodies and did not change clothes or bathe during the 66-day journey aboard the Mayflower. And, at the time, many people thought that too much fresh air was bad for you.

On the long voyage the filthy smell probably was incredible. There were rats and cockroaches on board. The flour and ship's biscuits went moldy and produced weevils and maggots. Some ate their biscuits only when it was dark, so that they need not see the bugs in their food. There was no bathroom - only buckets. They had no privacy. The tossing and rolling of the ship in rough water made most seasick, adding to the stench. Seawater kept their clothing and blankets wet through the entire voyage. Temperatures probably were in the thirties to fifties (Fahrenheit) in the North Atlantic at that time of year. Try to imagine living in the same cold, wet, dirty clothes in those constant unheated conditions for more than two months.

Upon arrival in the New World, the Pilgrims' first houses were built of wattle (a mixture of straw and mud) and clay. These hovels had floors of dirt or mud and were heated only by a small and often smoky fire. Nobody had a stove. Given the privations of the late autumn voyage and the lack of food while living in those cold and filthy shanties, it is not surprising that half the Pilgrims succumbed to disease the first winter. 

Surprisingly, the North American natives were much cleaner in their living habits. They bathed regularly when the weather allowed. Unfortunately, Squanto’s efforts to get the settlers to bathe met with little success. 

If truth be told, today's "living villages" at Plimoth Plantation, Colonial Williamsburg, and elsewhere are not historically accurate when it comes to hygiene. For one thing, these tourist attractions could never find re-enactors who would work in such conditions. Next, the local board of health would shut the exhibits down before the first tourist was allowed to enter!

Yes, our ancestors were hearty explorers and brave immigrants. In fact, they perhaps were heartier than we can realize. Of course, the lack of sanitation also contributed to the high rate on infant mortality. Only the strongest could survive in those conditions. 

Reviewing the personal hygiene of the times may be an unpleasant subject, but such studies do increase our awareness and admiration for those who endured. We also can better appreciate the modern world in which we now live. 


07/22/24 03:19 PM #30387    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Good points, David, in post #31111, and one other point to bring to the table is the notion that Trump has right now, of deporting the illegals who have managed to get into our country, under false pretenses.  Trump claims he and Tom Homan are going to 'send 'um packin' right back to their original countries, but my immediate response is, "How?"

As soon as they try to do that, the Dems will cry with outrage, just as they did every time Trump tried to do similar courses of action the last time he (Trump) was in office.  Last time around, the Democrats would immediately run to the 9th Circuit Court and finagle ways to shut him down, as they declared that, "He can't do that particular action like a dictator might do!  'Cause he's an idiot!  And he's a White Supremist/ Nationalist!"  In some of those cases, it was probably true that Trump was truly in need of more legal grounds to figure out, but in other of those cases, I think he probably DID have legal grounds.   However, there are now so many more liberal judges placed into office by our former presidents, (especially located wherever the 9th Circuit Court is.....California? and also DC) that we can see a new wave of liberalistic and Marxist reasonings and determinations happening in our nation.

It appears the only way to send back the illegals, is to give them speedy trials, which will expose the reasons they came here, with rare instances of true plights of escaping horrors of their countries, but rather the reasons  of gaining benefits for themselves; benefits of better quality of life.  They were not coming here to become Americans, necessarily, nor were they coming to assimilate, necessarily.  Some may want to become Americans and assimilate, but many just want to come here for reasons of niceties to gain.

If Trump should win reelection, it seems we will need to appoint a large number of judges to use, to do one trial after another, very speedily, in determining the destinations of so many of these illegals.  It will have to be done completely above board, so that opposers will not be able to say that the Republicans are being cruel, or are being xenophobes who detest brown-skinned people, or that the conservatives are stingy people when it comes to giving money or opportunities to needy people from abroad.


07/22/24 03:38 PM #30388    

Jim Bedwell

David,

Wow, you have to get permission from the author to communicate it? Not I, mister!

Janalu,

We should rename it the 9th Circus Court of Appeals.


07/22/24 04:22 PM #30389    

 

Lowell Tuttle

I could be wrong, and I am sure your guys would definitely point that out, but the office of President was basically not thought to be part of whatever Constitutional organization this country's founders even wanted.

They didn't want a King.   

They didn't want a "Boss" saying who does what.   They wanted a form of democracy and chose the two house Republican form of government. 

The idea of an executive was foreign to their desires simply because of Kings, Czars, Emperors, Popes, and the like meant all that was wrong with the World.   But only the "educated" (like David posted) even knew about the options at hand.

It all was a compromise so there would at least be some type of leadership role for someone, and they insisted it be Washington...and he reluctantly acquiesced to the role...

It was mainly designed to be an almost entertaining role.   There was no "budget" or army or taxes or anything else.

How the office has evolved.   Now, they can build a wall, send secret armies to invade other countries, drop bombs, or sell bombs, or even order the destruction of the Earth.

At least we mostly have toilets.


07/22/24 05:05 PM #30390    

 

David Cordell

Lowell, I think I recall that many of the founding fathers wanted Washington to be king. Am I misremembering?


07/22/24 06:30 PM #30391    

Kurt Fischer

Sandra:

I apologize for assuming you were being ironic. I hoped you were.  Instead, you were seriously putting forth a conspiracy theory that Putin, Orban and Trump are plotting to steal tremendous sums of money.  What you are proposing makes the Illuminati seem believable.  Or the Brain's (Pinky and the Brain) plots also something we should have feared.  I just don't understand how the Trump haters can so quickly go so far.


07/22/24 07:36 PM #30392    

 

Wayne Gary

Before the Constitutuin we had The Articles of Confederation of 1778. There was a Congress but no judicial or executive branch. . Was in effect from 1781 to 1789.By 1787 our founding fathers realized be needed a Federal government with the 3 branches and a President.


07/22/24 11:56 PM #30393    

 

Holly Hobby

 

Little early for Thanksgiving, I know. Never too early for Matthew McConaughey. Or. 

A little parody, shared in affection for the um...eloquent scribes on this forum proudly representing the Class of the RHS1969.  Love to all. 
 



 


 

 

 


 

 


07/23/24 12:40 AM #30394    

 

Holly Hobby

(Read to the end Jana-Lu-Lu, not leaving you out. :)

Extra,  extra, extra love to Jan, Sandra and Hollis. You are the best!  But  there comes a time when even the "best" need to face it: the  day will come when you log onto this forum to post a few words, promising yourself to log off immediately.  Armed with confidence, nothing could make you succumb to reading posts. You swear "not this time. No sirrreeee. Not gonn'a happen." 

Then. Just as you're logging off... like a  rat spotting a Cheeto, you can't resist. In the blink of an eye, you find you're craving more. So. You start reading. And reading and reading and reading and reading and reading and reading and reading until finally it happens:  you reach the point where you briefly consider poking your eyeballs out just so you won't be ABLE  to one more post.

 I know. I know it isn't easy, but we have to try.  Our mental health ((or lack of it) depend on staying strong.  We can do this!"   We're strong. Smart.  Resilient.  And, well... we're like, totally  cool.   Tres hip. Always remember, "you've got this!" And I'm here for you.  In the meantime, just a thought, you might want to print two (2) copies of the below icon. Tape one (1) to your phone, iPad, laptop (whichever device you're most likely to lose control).  Tape the second (2nd) copy to your forehead so  every time you look in the mirror you'll  be reminded: "there is a better option. I'll just bang my head into the wall."

Jana-Lu-Lu:  love you too.  One of these days you're going to come running and we'll welcome you with open arms. Even if you don't we'll love you forever.. ♥️


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07/23/24 01:21 AM #30395    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Holly,

I love you too, as always.  You have such a sweet heart and a desire to love all.

That's very admirable.

God loves you and is proud of you.

You and I just have different methods in life with some aspects.  I think it happens because of family influences.

In the end, all that matters is love.

Always go toward love and the light.  They are linked.


07/23/24 01:51 AM #30396    

 

Holly Hobby

Hi JanaLu! Beautifully said. Oh I hope you'll make to the Heights reunion. Impossible to even think of Richardson Heights without remembering that cute freckled face little girl on the corner whose eyes  lit up brighter than the stars; along with it, the sweetest heart.  âť¤ď¸Ź Be safe, sweet-pea. 


07/23/24 02:48 AM #30397    

Jim Bedwell

David,

Yes, you are correct. Washington could have been the equivalent of King if he had so desired. But he said that he wasn't King. A GREAT man. And he never had any children whereas his widow Martha did have kids with her first husband - her great granddaughter was the wife of Robert E. Lee. Also with no living descendants currently are Lincoln, Madison, and other Presidents - life is just not fair. This world is not IT.


07/23/24 09:07 AM #30398    

 

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

KAMALA

 

 

 

 

Tommy, interesting idea to set an upper age requirement for all future POTUS candidates.

 

As you recall, the DEMs tried and failed in an attempt to use Trump's age and cognitive issues against him, which backfired by getting Biden fired this week!

The DEMs Big4 (Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries) as elitists make the party decisions…while the GOP remains guided by the traditional electoral system following the will of US voters.

Now with little time before the November election, how do you see the DEMs creating a winning strategy with Harris vs. Trump?

To aid our discussion, the chart below provides an overview of the policy achievements and campaign strategies of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, reflecting their differing approaches and priorities., along with their respective strategies to win the 2024 presidency, and potential weaknesses that could impact their campaigns.

 

Aspect

Kamala Harris

Donald Trump

Potential Weaknesses

Policy Achievements

     

Domestic Policy

Criminal Justice Reform: Co-authored the First Step Act, which aimed to reduce recidivism and reform sentencing laws.

Criminal Justice Reform: Signed the First Step Act into law, which aimed to reduce recidivism and reform sentencing laws.

Harris: Limited experience in federal office; some criticism over her record as a prosecutor.

 

Healthcare: Advocated for expanding the Affordable Care Act and co-sponsored Medicare for All legislation.

Healthcare: Attempted to repeal the Affordable Care Act; signed executive orders aimed at lowering prescription drug prices.

Trump: Controversial handling of healthcare reform; repeated attempts to dismantle the ACA without a clear replacement.

 

Education: Supported increased funding for public schools and free community college.

Education: Promoted school choice and expanded funding for charter schools.

Harris: Perceived as not delivering on promises made during campaigns.

 

Immigration: Supported DACA and advocated for comprehensive immigration reform.

Immigration: Implemented strict immigration policies, including the travel ban and family separation policies at the border.

Trump: Criticized for harsh immigration policies and family separations.

Economic Policy

Minimum Wage: Advocated for raising the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour.

Tax Reform: Enacted the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which lowered the corporate tax rate and provided temporary individual tax cuts.

Harris: Criticism over economic policies that some view as too progressive.

 

Infrastructure: Supported significant investments in infrastructure through the Biden administration's proposals.

Infrastructure: Promoted infrastructure investments, though significant legislation was not passed during his term.

Trump: Infrastructure plans often stalled; criticized for not delivering on promised projects.

Foreign Policy

Climate Change: Advocated for rejoining the Paris Agreement and supported strong environmental protections.

Climate Change: Withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Agreement; rolled back numerous environmental regulations.

Harris: Challenges in balancing progressive climate goals with economic impacts.

 

International Relations: Supported maintaining and strengthening alliances such as NATO.

International Relations: Focused on an "America First" approach, renegotiated trade deals, and withdrew from several international agreements.

Trump: Strained relationships with key allies; erratic foreign policy decisions.

COVID-19 Response

Pandemic Management: Advocated for science-based approaches and supported significant federal funding for relief efforts.

Pandemic Management: Initially downplayed the virus; later implemented Operation Warp Speed to expedite vaccine development.

Harris: Limited visibility on pandemic response compared to Biden.

Likely Strategies to Win 2024 Presidency

     

Core Messaging

Emphasize achievements of the Biden administration, including economic recovery and COVID-19 management.

Highlight economic successes pre-COVID-19 and critique the Biden administration's policies.

Harris: Potential difficulty in distinguishing her platform from Biden's.

 

Focus on social justice, climate action, and healthcare expansion.

Emphasize immigration control, law and order, and economic nationalism.

Trump: Reliance on base support may alienate moderate and independent voters.

Target Demographics

Appeal to minority voters, young voters, and suburban women.

Strengthen base among rural voters, working-class whites, and older voters.

Harris: Potential struggle to engage blue-collar voters.

Campaign Strategy

Leverage grassroots mobilization and digital outreach to engage voters.

Utilize large rallies and media appearances to energize the base.

Trump: Polarizing figure, may struggle to attract new voters outside his base.

 

Build a coalition of progressive and moderate Democrats.

Focus on battleground states with a strong presence and targeted messaging.

Harris: Balancing progressive and moderate factions within the Democratic Party.

 

 

Remember...you got this...


07/23/24 09:24 AM #30399    

 

Lawrence (Lance) Cantor

WHAT'S AGE GOT TO DO WITH IT?

 

 

 

Aw comeon' Tommy, Trump's debate against Biden has convinced the American viewers that he's still got the Right stuff!

Now the real question here is simply this:  Are you willing and able to lead a factual evidence-based discussion-debate on the compelling reasons who and why you, RFK, me, the OTOS gals, Holly, and the American voters should pick the best leader as POTUS.

 

If not Harris or Trump...kindly support your better candidate?!

Your refreshing positive comments lately give me encouragement that you can launch "a thousand points of light" onto this Forum!

I know you still got the right stuff!

 

Your turn.

 

 

 


07/23/24 03:44 PM #30400    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Tommy,

It's interesting that you come up with the age requirement just days after Biden bows out, having never mentioned that prospect before.

I just heard on Kudlow's show, that Kamala favors universal income, or the idea that everyone should be guaranteed a respectable sum of money, to try to eliminate base poverty, I suppose.  This is just one of her rather Marxist beliefs to emerge so quickly, as she begins her efforts to look like the candidate to promote the idea of everyone gets a trophy to avoid hurt feelings. YAHOO!  The age old belief that one needs to work to be able to eat at the end of a day, known since Biblical times, is irrelevent to Socialist/Marxists.  We, in this country, have enough high wage earners,(cough, cough) that we can just confiscate a nice large slice of THEIR earnings, and initiate REDISTRIBUTION, so that there are no hurt feelings. EVERYBODY GETS A CAR/income, a la Oprah's philosophy, of sorts!

She also, I hear, is not fond at all of Netanyahu, just as the Israeli ally comes to our shores to speak.  Oh well..........hardly worth mentioning...........

Tommy:  I love the peanut gallery & the adorable little old men--Sterling and Waldorf!


07/23/24 05:36 PM #30401    

 

Wayne Gary

The Dems talk about democracy when the leaders do not allow choice of canadates.  Biden did not have opposition durig the primaries, now Harris does not have any challengers for the nomination.


07/23/24 05:55 PM #30402    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Tommy,

I think your idea is reasonable enough, but I also think it will have to be brought before Congress, and when Congress discusses issues that can affect their means of staying in office, or can affect the Executive Branch having limitations, they don't feel any need to implement limitations.  Their salaries and power are of the utmost importance to them, not the country's best interest, as we have witnessed in the last few years.

Age is in the eye of the beholder, and in the eyes of Congressmen & women, 'the eyes' have it; the adored power blurring everything else.

By the way, I did not automatically think ill of you, even though I am a Trump supporter at this time, but not a Trump lover, or a cult member of any group.  And I try very hard not to hate anyone, even though it is not easy to do by myself, so I ask for assistance daily, reminding me and giving me little kicks ln the rear.

 

 


07/23/24 06:26 PM #30403    

Kurt Fischer

Sandra:

Looking back on my message to you, I apologize for being snippy.  I do think highly of you and was surprised you would put forth what I considered to be an odd conspiracy theory.

So far as Orban visiting Trump in Mar-a-Lago, it's my belief that foreign dignitaries will come visit him based upon their perception of his chances of winning the election.  You will also find Netanyahu visiting him at his home.  I'm not sure what other officials from other countries will visit the US before the election, but I would bet most would stop in to visit with Trump even though their official visit will be with Biden.  I don't believe there is anything more conspiratorial in these visits than trying to play both sides of the line.


07/23/24 07:29 PM #30404    

Jan Alexander

Holly-Jolly , this is me , I wait till steam comes out of my ears from reading posts... then I post. 

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Then I do this... for posting .......

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07/23/24 07:50 PM #30405    

 

Wayne Gary

I just found this about a teenage dragon.  Quite funny. Ronn Lucas is from El Paso.

Nothing to do about politics.




07/23/24 07:56 PM #30406    

 

Lowell Tuttle

There's plenty of reasons to not support Trump.   Don't need to argue too old.   That is his best quality...age...for good reason.

Now the tables are turned and it is hilarious hearing the Republicans defending old age...oh well...


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