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01/25/21 11:25 AM #20120    

 

Bob Davidson

David, Lance, Steve, etc.,

To be perfectly clear (I think that's a quote from someone in the misty past), I have absolutely nothing against individual homosexuals as God's creatures who have every right to attend whatever church they want. I have known and liked a number of them in my life and wish them well.  I am sure that a number of them attend my church.

What I was pointing out about wokeness is that the essential mission of Christianity is not advancing the current GLBT political agenda.  That is no more appropriate to my mind than the churches that promote socialism and call it Christianity.


01/25/21 12:01 PM #20121    

 

Bob Davidson

As to my comment about when Biden gets us into a war -- I don't envision another major country attacking the US, like Pearl Harbor, where we are in a life and death struggle with another big power, but of course, that is possible. Big wars seem to just sort of happen.

What I was thinking about was how Trump shut down the ongoing ones and didn't start any little wars in the third world like all of his recent predecessors:  Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc.  I'm figuring that having an incompetent administration will start that nonsense right back up to the delight of all the people that profit from the situation.


01/25/21 03:11 PM #20122    

 

David Cordell

Lance,

As you know, the banner at the top of the Message Forums says that "the goal is to encourage friendly interaction". As you also know, I have contacted individuals privately when I have felt that their posts were not consistent with the "friendly" part.

My personal approach to posts -- when I am particularly aggravated, I tend to pound out posts, by which I mean that I actually hit the keys pretty hard. Then I set aside the "finished" document until I am certain that the steam has stopped flowing from my ears. Then I do some serious editing before actually posting.

Bob D.,

The left simply hasn't acknowledged how Trump made progress in extricating us from overseas conflicts -- not rushing headlong into nuclear war. 

Oh, and how 'bout the Abraham Accords? How about meeting with that idiot from North Korea? How can an honest broker contend that Obama deserved a Nobel Peace Prize and Trump doesn't?

Separately, sort of, I am very much in favor of energy independence. Trump and the oil industry moved us to that point. I wish I could send both of my Trump-hating sons back to 1973 for awhile so they could experience gas lines during the Arab Oil Embargo. Now Arabs are getting along with Israel, and we don't even need Arab oil.


01/25/21 03:22 PM #20123    

 

Steve Keene

Lance,

I saw you got a pass, but I did not see that I did.   I am several of the things Holly called out in her rant.  After ascertaining the bent of the little group that I labeled the "Enchanted Valley Girls." i may not have captured the essence of their philosophy.  I think a better name for them might be the "Social List Sororals."

Bob,

I love everyone and appreciate them going to worship God.  However, the Bible is clear on what constitutes sin in God's eyes.  I think it is rather incongruous to flaunt one of those sins and hold it up as a source of pride while relegating repentence to everything else except the sin they wish to commit.  I am pretty sure God might take a dim view of me starting the Disciples of the Imbibers complete with a drunk pastor and a stripper choir, even if we had a Wednesday night Happy Hour and Prayer service to attract new members.

 

 


01/25/21 03:59 PM #20124    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David,

I'm curious as to why your sons dislike Trump.  It's a question I've asked my daughter too, as she used to travel along in the car with me when she was younger, when I was always listening to Rush, so she heard and comprehended what he was saying much of the time.  She knew how I would giggle sometimes at points he made, knowing the reasons behind the truth of what he was saying.  As she got older, she would sometimes hear a point made on a TV program during news broadcasts, and she would look at me at the moment, saying, "That's what Rush was talking about, wasn't it?

Yet now, after finishing her degree at UT Austin and teaching awhile with other young teachers at several different public schools, she told me recently that she was not fond of Betsy DeVos, and that she was disgusted with Trump too.  When I asked her why, she just said that the two of them were stupid with the ideas they had, and that she thought Trump was not a good man, was disgusting, and a misogynist.  Startled as I was, I asked why she had such distaste for two people I felt were doing a good job, and she answered that she had heard from her teacher friends and her neighborhood friends, that Trump was a racist and a bigot, and that Betsy DeVos came from a privileged background, knowing little of what goes on in a public school, etc., so it appears she (Christie) was being influenced by people around her that were just espousing gossip and hearsay, basically; people who were believing what they heard on mainstream news programs. (Also, her husband is half Hispanic, is pretty much a liberal, & he dislikes conservative media.)  So I think Christie was hearing biased BS, and was not really researching to find the facts of what Trump and DeVos were wanting to accomplish with their agendas.

The more she talked, I was aggravated that she seemed to be turning away from what she knew of my beliefs, and also of what her grandmother's beliefs were, (her grandmother, who is still alive and has been a sweetheart to Christie for years, was a teacher for 25 years, and has been a Trump and DeVos advocate for a long while) so I was frustrated that she would value her young friends beliefs ahead of what she had learned in earlier years, of her family members discussions, & the values those family members had "supposedly" taught her.  When I confronted her with that issue, she seemed to think that our values had some merit, but that "newer, more modern ways of teaching" had pretty much overtaken older ways of teaching.  I told her I was saddened to hear her talk that way, and that her grandmother would also be saddened.   I told her that just because we are older and our methods are from a different era, doesn't mean that our experiences have little to offer, as well as our political beliefs too.  I told her that my parents were both teachers, which she knew, and that I would never have told my parents that what I had learned from them was of little use to me as I, too, studied to become a teacher.  As a matter of fact, I told her that my parents GREATLY influenced me throughout my life, and that I still reflect on what they taught me, even now. 

Have you found that what you have taught your sons is considered by them to be rather obsolete and mostly irrevelant?


01/25/21 04:57 PM #20125    

 

Steve Keene

Janalu,

I can't answer for David but you perfectly describe the situation with my two older sons in their early forties and my two younger daughters in their mid twenties.  One daughter is slightly more conservative and one son is slightly more conservative as well, but I think that may be only to stay on the receiving side of my largesse.


01/25/21 09:13 PM #20126    

 

David Cordell

Ron Knight asked me to post this link to a short Kris Kristofferson bio.




01/25/21 09:15 PM #20127    

 

David Cordell

Janalu,

You asked about how my sons came to be somewhat on the left and to hate Trump. I posted the following over six years ago. The answer may lie within.

There was an funny episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show about 30 years ago that I still chuckle at. Everyone was in the newsroom. Georgette and Ted Baxter had adopted a 12-year-old boy and were terribly frustrated at the fact that the boy was performing very poorly in school. They shared their innermost thoughts and fears with the rest of the staff. They wondered if they boy was traumatized at the change, if they were doing something wrong, if he needed to go to a different school, if they were unfit to be parents. Then a short, bald man with a more-or-less Yiddish accent, who had been standing in the background, approached the group.

Old man: Pardon me, but I couldn't help overhearing your conversation. Do you mind if I offer an observation?

Ted and Georgette: Sure! We'll listen to anything from anyone. We're desperate!

Old man: Sometimes in situations like this, there is so much stress that people aren't able to see the problem clearly and rationally. Often the answer is actually quite simple.

Ted and Georgette: Go on! Go on!

Old man: Maybe he's just stupid.


01/26/21 01:04 AM #20128    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Funny story, David.

 

Bob D.,

I heard recently on conservative media that Gordon Chang, an attorney and a man well-versed in Chinese studies, speculates some type of skirmish soon, between the US and China, possibly this summer, with the Chinese Communists trying to regain control of Taiwan.  Chang has been watching for quite a while now, the build up of their Navy.  The Chinese have also expanded those little atolls, making them into bases supplied with missiles and landing runways.  They are saber-rattling a bit now, convinced that they have Joe in a compromised position because of his family's business dealings, so Chang thinks the Communists will take advantage of what they judge to be an ideal time for "stirring the pot."

I believe Joe will surprise them in some way, but he will be measured.


01/26/21 02:33 AM #20129    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Steve,

So I quess I owe you a belated Happy Birthday!?

I looked on the Home Page, but didn't see your name.  I know your birthday is in late January, so I hope you had a fun celebration.  Did Carl's Corner bake you a cake and ask the truck drivers to toot their horns for you as you drove up?  Did someone capture a video?


01/26/21 09:23 AM #20130    

 

Bob Davidson

Lance,

How are zero emission vehicles good for anybody but the politically connected creeps that make and sell them?   Switching the emissions from tailpipes to electric plants seems to me to be snake oil. 

I hope you are right that Slow-Joe's handlers know enough to maintain peace.  Appeasement and weakness usually work like Charles the Bald paying off the Vikings after Charlmagne died.  (David, remember Patty Kruppa's lecture on Charlamegne?)


01/26/21 11:03 AM #20131    

 

David Cordell

Bob said: "David, remember Patty Kruppa's lecture on Charlamegne?"

David responds:

No. I didn't know she was called Patty, either. Seems like I had a class with her husband, too. All in all, I prefer Gene Kruppa to both of them.

I have a book from the early 1900s that traces my ancestry back to Charlemagne. Not sure that that it has proven particularly helpful in my every-day life. Maybe if I had knownabout the alleged relationship when I was in college, I may have paid attention to that lecture. On the other hand, I may have been embarrassed by it. On the third hand, I may have skipped that class. So, pray tell, what did Professor Kruppa say about Charlemagne?


01/26/21 11:12 AM #20132    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Charles the Bald and descendants of Charlemagne were featured in several episodes of The Vikings, which Susie and I bingewatched (7 or 8 seasons...)

Presently we are enjoying The Expanse....We are in season 3, I think...


01/26/21 11:53 AM #20133    

 

Steve Keene

David,

We are cousins.  I am related to Charlemagne myself.  

Janalu,

You are in time on your wishes.  It is not till tomorrow.  My sister in Houston mailed me some chocolate patchwork cookies using my mother's recipe.  No one could hold a candle to her cookie recipe. If you read Genesis tomorrow, look for "let there be light."   That won't be the Sun that comes up in the sky tomorrow it will be someone lighting my cake.

Lowell,

I have been trying to cut down on expanse.  With gifts like chocolate cookies, it is difficult.


01/26/21 03:04 PM #20134    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Automobiles.   Electric vs gasonline.

Well, think about automobiles economically all together.

Just about everything in this culture is based on the automobile.   Steel, design, advertising, plastic, licensing, insurance, body shops, repair shops, roads, road machinery, road contracts, it is really beyond comprehension how the automotobile has overwhelmed this society.

Yet, all we really need is water, food, air, sunshine...and I suppose love/family/friends...

How is the automobilie going to evolve in human culture in the next 300 years or so.  For ten billion people, not just 330,000,000...?


01/26/21 03:41 PM #20135    

 

David Cordell

Beam me up, Lowell. No cars needed. Of course, there is always the possibility that all the atoms won't align correctly and that the transported individual may not, for example, retain the same level of intelligence. Unfortunately, this will give rise to more Democrats.

Separately, I have informed my wife and children that we need to have unity in our family. Based on the actions of our esteemed president, I have instructed them that they need to realign all their beliefs to equate to mine so we can achieve unity.




01/26/21 04:47 PM #20136    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David,

Unity when uttered by Progressssives means "unity on my terms!"  Submission!  Conformity!

Cynical?  Yes sir!  Just as Obama and his minions were cynical that Trump would ever have anything useful to offer, as they met on January 5, 2016, to put in place all types of obstacles for the new president to face, before his inauguration, and to even start the engines on the "Witch Hunt," (Russian Collusion) that almost consumed Trump's whole administration, with its lies written up by Hillary's dutiful "cover up" team, keeping her infamous email fiasco truth away from our citizens; swept under the proverbial rug, just as all of her other scandalous deeds over the years.

The recently released official records from the intelligence offices and the FBI, FINALLY allow all of America to see what they should have known years ago.  All of this info has purposely been either "slow rolled," or has been buried in the Deep State depths of bureaucratic muck; the swamp.


01/26/21 06:46 PM #20137    

 

David Cordell

I was looking for items on my computer desktop that I could delete, and I ran across this description of a meaningful experience. I posted it about five years ago

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On Tuesday I arrived in Baltimore on the day before the start of a financial planning conference. Just knocked around a bit. Checked with my good friend Scot Milvenan, who did a residency at Johns Hopkins, and asked where to go in Baltimore for some steamed crabs. He recommended Captain James Crab House in the Fells Point area, so I hopped the water taxi (using my 50% senior discount—umm, the discount was 50%; I’m not a 50% senior) and headed to Fells Point. After a 20 minute walk around the Fells Point area, I arrived at Captain James’s. It’s one of those places where they cover the picnic table with butcher paper and lay the crabs onto the table.

I sat with a woman and her daughter, who was probably about 10 or 12. I could see immediately that the daughter (Alice), was not a “normal” child. Her complexion was very spotty, possibly due to medication, I surmised. She never spoke, and her range of expressions ranged from blank to aggravated. At first, I thought she was blind, but she seemed to react when her mother moved a spoon to her mouth. I couldn’t help but think of Patty Duke’s performance as Helen Keller in The Miracle Worker.

The mom was incredibly upbeat. She was a physical therapist who had served in the army for 20 years, having trained at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, but was now a civilian. She spoke happily of her days in San Antonio, albeit days of financial deprivation. She worked with lots of soldiers who came home from Iraq and Afghanistan, with life-changing injuries.

I asked about the plastic bracelet she was wearing, anticipating that she had been at a hospital. Yes, she had taken her daughter to Johns Hopkins for treatment. I wanted to ask more, but I showed uncharacteristic constraint.

She showed me how extract meat from the crabs, and we talked about the recent racial strife in Baltimore. During the conversation, she would periodically turn to her daughter to comfort her or give her some food without interrupting her conversation. And she never stopped being cheerful. At one point, after watching her lovingly care for her child, who was active but not disruptive, I tried to give my warmest smile and I gently shared my observation that she was a very patient mother. Her quick and matter-of-fact response was, “She’s a good girl.”

“She’s a good girl.” What a simple yet revealing statement.

When they were finished with dinner, the mom bid me well and left the restaurant, pushing her daughter in something that looked like it was a hybrid of a wheelchair and a stroller. As they walked out I felt a sense of relief at not having a child with such disability. I also felt a sense of inadequacy, knowing that I don’t have the patience, and maybe not the “goodness”, to provide the loving care that the mom demonstrated. Inevitably, my thoughts turned to my own sons and my thousands of interactions with them over 34 years—things said or done that didn’t reveal the level of fatherly love that I felt.  Indeed, I had some hopes for them that they haven’t fulfilled and some standards that they haven’t maintained. Many were unrelistic. Then I reflected on my own youthful mistakes and misdeeds, and the realization that my parents probably thought the same thing about me.

When I rose from the table to leave, I gazed over at the space vacated by my young table-mate Alice. My thoughts turned back to my sons. All the sudden I missed them very much and said to myself something that I probably haven’t said in 20 years.

”They’re good boys.”


01/26/21 07:15 PM #20138    

 

David Cordell

I found a good Democrat! Watch this from former U.S. Representative Tulsi Gabbard.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1354035548524957697


01/27/21 12:08 AM #20139    

 

Holly Hobby

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/worried-about-your-foul-mouth-swearing-could-actually-be-good-for-you

My fellow swearers  (and Kurt),

Well. There ya’ go.  Vindication!  The envelope, please. And the credit goes to.... (drum roll) my darling husband of nearly 40 years, RJ, who pointed out the article! 

Yes. My husband, a man from whose mouth you will NEVER hear a swear word.  Conservative, God abiding, and gracious; a man born wearing a freshly ironed, medium starched long sleeve white shirt; navy blazer; crisply pleated khakis and upscale handcrafted Italian loafers: his casual dress. A man highly respected for his ethics and diplomacy.  My husband. A man willing to admit, from his wife, he learned not to sweat the small stuff, instead to this day, stands in awe and amusement by her impressive use of well-placed swear words. 

P.S. Kurt: thank you for your response to my post last Sunday. I hear you. But with all due respect, (and certainly not saying you're one of them), men who behave badly are pussies.  Real men don't behave like juvenile delinquents fresh from county jail. Stay well. 


01/27/21 01:11 AM #20140    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Dear Stephen Roy,

Happy Birthday To You!

Hope your special day is wonderfully fun and jolly!


01/27/21 02:13 AM #20141    

 

Steve Keene

Janalu,

Don't rush things.  I think my mother had me about 3 a.m.  I would like to feel young till then.   Thanks for the sentiment and even thinking about me.  It is nice to have an online friend like you.


01/27/21 07:17 AM #20142    

 

David Cordell

Steve,

It's past 3 AM. Do you know where age 70 is? (How did this happen??)

Happy Birthday, good friend!


01/27/21 09:48 AM #20143    

 

Lowell Tuttle

hipplyddy birfdey Steve.


01/27/21 10:27 AM #20144    

 

Ron Knight

Happy Birthday Steve-O!!!

Hope you have a great day. It's my son's birthday today as well. Think we'll venture out for lunch.


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