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04/01/23 06:52 AM #27150    

 

David Cordell

Fox News has shown clips of gleeful Democrats reacting to the Trump indictment. They don't seem to care if the actual indictment for the actual alleged crime is appropriate. They seem to feel that he deserves to be punished simply because he is Trump, regardless of the facts of the case. This is a symptom of what conservatives call Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I don't like Trump. As I have said, he was number 17 among the 17 Republicans vying for the nomination in 2016. I liked most of his actual actions when he was President, but I was appalled by many of his behaviors. Still am.

That said, it sounds to me that the case is very weak. But the jury pool comes from a city that voted 8 to 1 for Biden.  And I understand that the assigned judge has already ruled against the Trump family in another case. Maybe the indictment, once unsealed, will reveal more than has been reported.

Regardless, Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, who is presiding over a huge crime wave because of his decisions to downgrade an unusually large number of felonies to misdemeanors, has crossed the Rubicon in inflating a misdemeanor that has passed the statute of limitations into a felony. 

Again, maybe there is more to this, but I have my doubts. 

Internationally, this Tweet from Nayib Bukele, the President of El Salvador, a then-embattled country that I visited in 1981, struck me as especially disconcerting:

Imagine if this happened to a leading opposition presidential candidate here in El Salvador.

He later added:

Sadly, it'll be very hard for US Foreign Policy to use arguments such as 'democracy' and 'free and fair elections' or try to condemn 'political prosecution' in other countries, from now on.

Back home, Biden better hope he wins the next election and dies in office becuase if not, he may be the next ex-President to find himself in the dock.

Say, "Hello," to Pandora's Box.


04/01/23 08:04 AM #27151    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

Janalu,

Your post was not funny.  Tommy's post after your post "broke the mood", so to speak.  Lowell's post delivered the line that was funny, at least to me. 

Your comment, 'What's so funny, care to comment?', brought back some classroom memories of teacher who caught us giggling and in an attempt to shame us and shut us up used a similar phrase.  That too was a bit funny.


04/01/23 08:18 AM #27152    

 

Sandra Spieker (Ringo)

David,

Depending upon your favorite news channel, each one showed one side or the other reacting to Trump's indictment in either serious tones, gleeful tones or not surprised at all reactions.  Fox is special.  So is CNN, they hammer their side pretty hard to sway you.  Try Reuters.  They seem to deliver the news, period.

As for the indictment.  I have as a Grand Juror, handed down a few true bills in my six month term back in 1990.  None were voted on without serious consideration and enough evidence to bring it to trial, so that a jury could decide the final outcome.  The indictment for Trump is so far sealed.  We know nothing of the real charges and there are numerous charges.  I for one, will hold off until I see what those charges are.  As for paying off Stormy, from what I understand, President, Congressman, Senators etc., can sleep all they want with porn stars and pay them off with hush money.  It is legal.  Trump is not the first one, I am sure of that.  What is illegal is fraud.  That is what interests me.  That and what secret documents did he have and why did he refuse to give them up?  Then there is the election...and January 6th.  If Biden, Hillary or any Democrat did any of this, the rabid Right would be hopping mad and calling for blood.  Biden had a few documents and they were immediately turned over.  The election was fair and not one Democrat or liberal stormed the Capitol, or spread feces on the walls there. 

Do I hate Trump?  No.  I don't like him, I fear him.  I think he is dangerous.  What billionare can get an indictment, make a speech about how unfair unjust the whole thing is and raise millions from his fans?  It boggles the mind.  I wonder how John Edwards feels about this?

Now, let the degrading and humiliating comments about liberals, and the far left begin.


04/01/23 08:34 AM #27153    

 

Wayne Gary

I am not a supporter of Trump. I feel he is a jerk.

The thing I get from NY is it is OK to blackmail/extort (Stormy Daniels) but against the law to pay the blackmail.  Why has the DA not charged Stormy Daniels wit the ceime of blacmail/extortion?

I doubt the NYDA has spent as much time and money looking at any other mistameaner crime?

The news forgets that Bill Clinton was facing a felony purgery charge when he left the office but reached a plea that he would not be indited if he gave up his Bar card and promised never to practice law again.


04/01/23 12:58 PM #27154    

Jan Alexander

There are 4 Trump investigations going on :

1.On the national level there are two broad areas: the classified documents found at his Florida estate and efforts to interfere with the 2020 election.

2.In New York state: a civil lawsuit alleging the Trump Organization lied to lenders and insurers about its assets.

3.In Georgia :The district attorney  considering charges surrounding efforts by the former president and his allies to overturn the 2020 election there.

4. In New York City:. The Manhattan district attorney has been working with a grand jury onTrump hidden payments /hush money to silence Stormy Daniels.

 

THE investigations that I am gravely concerned about :

1. The interference in the 2020 election and the Jan. 6th crazy, violent attempt to take over our the United States capital  

2. The efforts of Trump and his yahoos trying to overturn the 2020 election.  

 

I could give a rats behind about the Stormy hush money .  Bill Maher also agreed, in so many words, that there are more important investigations surrounding Trump that matter.  I am looking forward to seeing more important charges and indictments coming Trump's way .

grrrrr.


04/01/23 01:02 PM #27155    

 

Wayne Gary

Tommy,

I remember that Pres Ford gave a parden to Pres Nixon and the Dems were up in armes.  In his wisdom he determined the country had gone through enough pain and the best thiing for the country was to grant a parden and move on.

Over the years there have been Senators that do the same in the impeachment trials of Pres Andrew Johnson, Pres Bill Clinton and Pres Trump. In the case of Pres Clinton the US supreme Court felt it was best for Pres Clinton to promise to never practice law again.

With Trump the NY dems have beien going after Trump for many years trying to dig up charges against him.


04/01/23 01:09 PM #27156    

 

Lowell Tuttle

The Trump affair with Stormy Daniels was in 2006.  Her Wik says they hung around each other for about a year, but onlt "engaged" once, and she kept it quiet.   It also says she considered herself a Republican and ran for Senate in Louisiana...at least for a while.

The "bribe" from Trump's lawyer was in 2016.   Trump's lawyer lied about it being directed by Trump, according to his sworn testimony.   Another girl was also "bribed/paid off in 2016."

I am unsure of the merit of the Trump indictment and feel there could be more actions with merit to act, but in the eyes of this NY DA, those aren't his to act on.   Definitely politics.

Biden's second son is or was a dirtbag of a person.   He is a lawyer, using his family's name to gain influence, dealing in drugs, running around on his wife...just quite a despicable person.

The story is that Joe Biden still loves his son.

As far as Joe Biden's culpability in anything illegal so far...lucky for him he lives in Delaware and is more of a local hero there than Trump was in NY.  

I prefer going after the low hanging fruit, like with Nixon...

I assumed Nixon might have been indicted if not granted the pardon Ford afforded him.   

Can Biden pardon Trump?   Maybe if he decides not to run.   Now that would be interesting.


04/01/23 01:19 PM #27157    

 

Wayne Gary

Lowell,

Biden cannot parden Trump on "State charges" only Federal charges. He could grant Trump a parden covering the Federal charges ending the DOJ investagations but not hr GA investagation on election medlling.

I don't expect Biden on ending the investagtions against his political rival.

The DOJ has not tried to charge Biden for lying on the Federal Firearms form and Pres. Biden is against guns but not for enforcing the law with his son.


04/01/23 01:41 PM #27158    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Tommy,

It's not whining when clearly before us is the two-tiered system of justice current today..  Nobody is above the law and nobody is beneath it, in this country.  Wake up smell the coffee.

Hunter will be convicted as soon as the Biden crime family boss leaves office, and the FBI and DOJ get back to normal  unbiased duties.

And.......when CBS can offer the truth to their viewers as to the true identity of the murderer of the Covenant school children in Nashville.  They are censoring their news, as usual.

Don't ever accuse me of whining, ever!  I'm not a whiner!  I can dish it out better and faster than you, Mister.

Get off your high horse!

 


04/01/23 01:42 PM #27159    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Tommy.   I was curious about the size a magnum is...I think I knew but had forgotten, as I wasn't much of a winde drinker...staying with Frontera/Argentinian wine...(cheap good stuff.)   I realize I had been drinking the magnum size all these years.

I googled wine bottle sizes.   There are larger sizes named after Biblical Kings.

Methusala, Salamanazar, Balthazar, and Nebuchanezzar...amoung the different size names.

I don't know if you can do it, but ask for a Methusala of Burgundy...


04/01/23 01:59 PM #27160    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Actually, Wayne, don't you think it would be appropriate for NY Gov Kathy Hochul to pardon Trump.   After all, she took over from Cuomo resigning amid a sexual scandal...

Sort of "full circle"


04/01/23 05:01 PM #27161    

Jan Alexander

Uno mas thing, today. 

I went to a store today that I know is a republican owned store that I often shop at...( Remember , I live in crazy -ass ,BOEBERT LAND) and at the check out line they always make a comment, " I LOVE YOUR BAG".  I have always kept my mouth shut, but today I said, " I don't get it , is the straps or is it cuz it is a plastic, heavy bag?"   She replied, "NO , I like the flags"  , then she turned to the other clerk and said "don't you just love this bag?".  

I then replied , " Yes, everyone loves the flags ,  Democrats and Republicans". 

For the life of me , why do republicans and right-wing extremists think they are the only ones that OWN or should I say,  love the flag and our country.? 

I then walked out to my car muttering a few words under my breath , they couldn't hear. wink


04/01/23 05:38 PM #27162    

Jan Alexander

To follow Tommy's words," America does not need to be great again -- because it's already great." 

Trust me, I used to live in South America, as a child.  We live in the best country available on earth.     

 


04/01/23 07:12 PM #27163    

Jan Alexander




04/01/23 07:34 PM #27164    

 

David Cordell

Tommy, you might want to back off the insults of other people who post on this site. On second thought, no, you probably don't want to. But I want you to. Seems like we've been through this before.

About the 2020 election -- Trump was a sore loser. He simply couldn't accept that he could lose to a weak-minded basement denizen. Hard for me to believe, also.

About January 6, I don't think what Trump said amounts to inciting a riot. In fact I think his statement to "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." exonerates him. Yes, he used the word "fight", but you have heard that word a thousand times when it doesn't mean physical confrontation. Example: You can't fight city hall. I'm going to fight my property tax appraisal. Or this from the late Justice Ginsberg: "Fight for the things that you care about, but do it in a way that will lead others to join you." Fisticuffs? I don't think so.

Do you really think that Trump wanted a riot? He's a lot of things, but dumb isn't one of them.

The January 6 shame-fest was a sham. Pelosi nixed the Republicans seleted by the Minority Leader and put only two Republicans of her own choosing -- two avowed Trump haters -- along with seven -- SEVEN -- Democrats, including noted lying dog Trump-hater Adam Schiff. (Former Secretary of State Pompeo stopped providing classified information to Schiff because, he said, Schiff was blabbing it.) There was no effort to identify exculpatory evidence on January 6, including videos that showed people peacefully walking through the building. It was a sham, railroad job. 

Is is whining to point out these obvious deficiencies?

Sending a score of armed agents to Mar a Lago was a disgrace.. 

Claiming that angry parents at school board meetings were domestic terrorists was outragious.

Was Hillary Clinton given the same scrutiny as Trump for her financing of the total lie that was called the Russian dossier -- the total lie that Democrats were happy to dwell on for three years? Oh, yeah. Hillary paid a fine. The end.

You have heard it said, "It ain't braggin' if it's true."

Well, we might add, "It ain't whinin' if it's true."


04/01/23 08:21 PM #27165    

Jan Alexander

David,David , David .

David states "About January 6, I don't think what Trump said amounts to inciting a riot. In fact I think his statement to "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." exonerates him. "

Give me a break.

Pence pleaded with Trump to call off his YAHOOS .. and he didn't . He sat and watched the show on T.V. 

Trump now warns of " potential death and destruction " if he is indicted. He is summoning his warlords to prepare for battle.   Again.. give me a break.  

Respectfully.. 

This just proves to me a tiger never changes his stripes, no matter what.   We all believe what we want to believe.  

 


04/01/23 09:00 PM #27166    

Jan Alexander

Tommy,  I am grateful for not ever being in Stormy's position with Trump. laugh 


04/01/23 09:16 PM #27167    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Well, here I go...whining about people whining about people whining...

I'll stop...


04/01/23 09:36 PM #27168    

 

David Cordell

Jan, the question is whether he incited a riot, not whether he reacted properly to it. 

As I have noted repeatedly, Trump is a dick. But that isn't a crime. Neither is it fair to indict/convict someone of a crime simply because he is a dick.

I think this is a good analysis from today's Wall Street Journal.


04/01/23 09:40 PM #27169    

 

David Cordell

Tommy,

Tomorrow, I will attend Palm Sunday services; have brunch with a dear friend afterward; watch the women's NCAA final with the same friend, and host a dinner for eight church friends tomorrow night. It will be a happy day.


04/02/23 12:11 PM #27170    

Jan Alexander

ADDENDUM: Regarding our country is already great... An interesting tidbit about myself  : I lived in Bogota during the time whole time of the 1953 Colombian coup d'etat followed by the seizing of power, by Colombia's commander in cheilf Gustavo Rojas Pinilla . He ruled as dictator until 1957.

I remember at one point army tanks in my neighborhood rolling around and I couldn't go outside and play.   Nothing like the hoods of Richardson.

 


04/02/23 01:47 PM #27171    

 

Steve Keene

Jan,

That actually makes a lot of sense concerning your politics today.  You yearn for the "Good Old Days."

 

Lowell,

I am not a fan of Chinese.  Last time I tried Hung Chow, it gave me constipation.   You can curry my favor with Thai green eggplant and chicken that is about three stars hot.

 

David,

Please No Bragg just fact.


04/02/23 10:33 PM #27172    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

David,

I admire you in so many ways!  Your lovely wife too!

The plans you told us of for this Palm Sunday sounded so nice, gregarious and special.

Today in our Sunday service, we allowed the little kids to walk down the center aisle waving palm fronds.

They were so cute and joyous, and the small boys were bouncing the palms off of the other boys' heads; little rascals that they are!  Reminded me of my little son with his Boy Scout pals, who did the same thing many years ago.  Also reminded me of what my Aunt Mary said to me after my first child arrived----my son.  She had had three boys in a row in her earlier days, before having a daughter, finally.  She said, "Little girls are fun to dress in frills and ruffles, but  LITTLE BOYS ARE SPECIAL!"   Aunt Mary was SO RIGHT ON, all the time!!!!

Hosanna!


04/03/23 01:02 AM #27173    

 

David Wier

David C:

re: pronouns stuff

Bravo - I couldn't have said it better myself. The press has much better things to do besides glorifying the 'pronoun' crap of that lowlife.

Recently, I've noticed that you can't watch much of any network shows without someone having a gay relationship on it (though I have become more adapt to that recently). It just seems like with so many shows highlighting that, that it's being shoved down our throats. I must say, I don't agree with the lifestyle (for lack of a better word at this time), but I do not hate anyone for their choices  and I don't believe anyone should be on the side of hate for this.

But now, there are at least two shows that have pronounced 'pronoun' people on them. One is more subtle and I like the rest of the show (Big Sky) and the other, I now just refuse to watch (the reboot of Quantum Leap).

OK - I've stepped off my soapbox. I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers out there.

 

 


04/03/23 05:32 AM #27174    

 

David Cordell

Did you see that former Speaker Pelosi declared that Trump will have an opportunity to "prove his innocense in court"?

I must have been misled in school. I thought one was innocent until proven guilty.


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