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07/02/20 11:39 AM #18386    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Lance,

I don't need to be fed by you.

What's that suppose to mean?    Don't trouble yourself, please.

I pay no attention to propaganda, by the way.


07/02/20 12:15 PM #18387    

 

Wayne Gary

Lance,

I might go and exercise my 2nd amendment right. I do look for a companion. I am a NRA instructor for Black Powder, Rifles and Shotguns/


07/02/20 01:51 PM #18388    

 

Bob Davidson

Janalu,

I personally believe Roe v. Wade was a case where Justice Brennan wanted the result and came up with a reason to achieve that result.  

In law school, the professors tell the students over and over that the purpose of a legal education is to make the students “think like a lawyer.”  Part of that thinking is understanding the English Common Law method of applying past judicial case reasoning to present situations.  Laws in our tradition are fairly general, with the idea being that a statute does not cover every variation of situations that people can come up with. 

Appellate courts review the decisions on cases appealed from trial courts (basically an appeal is a claim that the trial court made a mistake in following the law and the case needs to be corrected) and they “publish” the decisions they consider significant enough to be the law for the trial courts.  These published decisions are binding on the trial courts in the jurisdiction.  In both the federal and state system we have two levels of appellate courts, courts of appeals and a supreme court.  A supreme court decides if a court of appeals has correctly interpreted the law in a case appealed to them.  In the federal system the courts of appeals cover a geographic area called a circuit: Texas is in the Fifth Circuit, along with Louisiana and Mississippi.  The trial courts in that circuit are bound by the decisions of their court of appeals.  It’s a little different in the state courts, but the same general idea.  Federal trial and bankruptcy courts also publish the cases they believe are significant; state trial courts don’t.  

Law students read old cases, analyze the reasoning, and compare that reasoning to the reasoning in other cases.  Most start out like I did, liking cases that had results we approve of and disliking cases where we didn’t like the outcome.  If the teaching works, we come to believe that the process is much more important than the outcome, i.e., the means is more important than the ends.  That’s went you start thinking like a lawyer.  Law school exams are generally based on the analysis of what’s called a fact pattern – a story.  The professors grade on “issue spotting” – finding and analyzing the legal issues raised in the story.  Amazingly, it pretty much mirrors what I’ve been doing for all these years as a lawyer.

When I try a case, the judge makes decisions about the law constantly: deciding what evidence to consider, what questions are proper, what law to apply to the case, and how to apply it.  I present a viewpoint, the other lawyer a contradictory one.  That’s the point top all that “objecting” you see in courtrooms – we have to point out to the judge when she does something we think is wrong, “preserving error.”  If a trial lawyer believes that a judge has misapplied the law in a way that changes the outcome of the case, we can ask the court of appeals to review these mistakes.  An appellate brief sets out point by point the specific errors the trial judge made, why they are errors and what the ruling should have been.  If the court of appeals agrees, they send the case back to the trial court with instructions as to what they found she did wrong.  If they think an important principle is involved they publish the case.

Federal judges are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.  High-minded Presidents like the Bushes try to appoint fair and impartial judges who share their general legal philosophy.  When Gerald Ford spoke at our law school, he did a question and answer where we asked him about how he appointed judges.  He said he looked at the ABA recommended candidates by reading some of their reported cases and appointing the ones whose reasoning impressed him.  More activist presidents like Clinton and Obama appoint liberal activists.  Republican Presidents tend not to be successful in appointing activists (Warren and Brennan were big-time liberal activists appointed by Ike.) Ginsburg was the general counsel of the ACLU.  Traditionally, the Senate has refused to confirm conservative activists, like Robert Bork.  

Obviously, as a practicing lawyer, you advocate for your client.  Activist judges tend to be ends driven and think how they get there isn’t that important.

My problem with Roe v. Wade isn’t only that it is clearly written to justify the conclusion, but that it took a political problem and made it legal decision.  It is generally agreed that the Supreme Court has the power to decide the constitutionality of laws, but laws are supposed to be created by the congress and approved by the President.  Short-circuiting this process is, to me, a form of autocracy, especially when the law is as contentious as abortion.

Sorry for the long-windedness.


07/02/20 03:07 PM #18389    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

Bob,

Thanks much for that clear and concise explanation!  Very interesting!

I agree with your last paragraph completely.  Short-circuiting the creation of the Roe v. Wade law did yield indeed a decision that I think should definitely be reviewed, but I doubt that will ever happen in our current climate of division.

I appreciate your taking the time here.

 

Did you book any courses at your law school?


07/02/20 06:16 PM #18390    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Goldman Sachs has done the math and a national mask mandate to halt the spread of coronavirus would have a big impact on the U.S. economy

Published: July 2, 2020 at 9:07 a.m. ET

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Mark DeCambre

 

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Mask wearing could save the domestic economy from a 5% hit to GDP, Goldman says


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    However a recent report from Goldman Sachs projects that a lack of a national policy mandating the use of facial coverings throughout the U.S. is delivering an unnecessary hit to the domestic economy.

    A team of economists lead by Jan Hatzius, chief economist at Goldman, makes the case that a national face-mask mandate could partially substitute for renewed lockdowns, as COVID-19 inflections flare up in a number of southern and western states in the U.S., that would “otherwise subtract 5% from gross domestic product.” (See attached chart):

     


07/02/20 08:20 PM #18391    

 

David Cordell

Bob said, "You may have noticed that I have a small sarcastic edge, myself."

David répond: "Êtes-vous sarcastique? C'est impossible!"

(I figured that French would ramp up the attitude a bit.)


07/02/20 10:23 PM #18392    

 

David Cordell

Sent to me by a non-poster. 


07/02/20 10:45 PM #18393    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

I suspect that T-shirt was made in China in the early Fall season of 2019.


07/03/20 07:35 AM #18394    

 

Lowell Tuttle

Lacne, admittedly, Goldman Sachs has at least more financial economic knowledge than I do.  I heard about them saying this on the way to golf in The Woodlands Thursday, and tought I would just try to recall the announcement.  So, I googled it and this article came up.  I tried to find a better clipping, but this is all I had.  I just thought it was pretty significan that they, a somewhat respected financial institution, had announced the possibility that mandated face masking would improve, rather than destroy, our markets.

I know that El Trumpo would not be advised to take this action.  Just was a thought.

By the way, my club has a large contingent of Asian (Korean mostly, I think) members who all play together and have had the habit of wearing face coverings while golfing for several years.  I guess it protects them from the bad Katy air and sun.  I always sort of chuckled to that, but in the back of my mind, I reflected on my two skin surgeries and constant congestion (which I blame on my lsinopril script.)

I have noticed quite an upswing in face covering here in Houston since the Texas (bar/riot/openingup-whatever) upswing in positive testing.

My wife walks every morning (I cycle) and there is not a day that goes by without a complaint by here of a close walker or close cycler, at the dollar stores too.  Thrift stores are off limits for her now, her passion, but she has gone out to The Dollar Store or some similar outlet at least 15 times to find a pink cowboy scarf. 

I ordered one on line two months ago.  I think it will be here on 7 20.


07/03/20 08:32 AM #18395    

 

Steve Keene

La Lowell,

I have ordered my "BOLSHEVIKS FOR BIDEN" T-shirt.  It should be here about 7/20 as well.


07/03/20 09:43 AM #18396    

Debbie Cathey (Havens)

Wish we had like or love buttons for "lazies" like I am at times...loved some of your responses to one another's offerings. Hopped on to say hi...you may or may not remember me from RHS, and looking back, there is MUCH that I prefer being thrown
into the abyss of forgetfulness. I am now a very conservative thinking gal who realized my senior year that hope for all situations in life...political or personal can be found in acknowledging Jesus Christ as Sovereign Savior and Lord. The horrific political tide we are presently seeing in America right now, coupled with the pandemic that is so being used to manipulate SOME citizens, could cause a wave of distress and panic in the hearts of many. I refuse to "go there". Instead, I will continue to do what I can and leave the rest in the hands of our Creator Who is known for taking the worst case scenarios and somehow working them into His ultimate plan. So, in the meantime, carry on... (and enjoy the 4th! ...maybe a little pro-4th of July "protest" on beaches with hot dog roasts would add to the promotion of the protest? )

07/03/20 12:14 PM #18397    

 

Steve Keene

Debbie Cathey,

Welcome and post more often.  I wish more of us had learned your Truth at an early stage.  Are you any kin to the owner of Chick Fil Et?  Is your husband kin to Wade Havens?


07/03/20 03:03 PM #18398    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

The most recent scuttlebutt is that Kamala Harris will get the VP nod, and once again, Obama's rhetoric will ring out often and vociferously in the White House.  How lucky could we be?  We always wondered why he wasn't leaving town, and though he said it was to give his daughter the opportunity to finish school there, we surmised there were other preconceived reasons as well. (And they talk continuously about REPUBLICANS not leaving the office when the job is finished!  HA!)

Who says a President can't have a third term now-a-days?


07/03/20 11:49 PM #18399    

 

Steve Keene

Hollis,

Per your request, here is a picture of my ATV parked between my neighbor's Texas flag and the only known Confederate flag left in captivity waving proudly in Carl's Corner.


07/04/20 01:38 AM #18400    

 

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

Steve, Cool profile photo. Having fun with the ATV? Lured your daughters out with it yet?

07/04/20 08:11 AM #18401    

 

Lowell Tuttle

I am laughing.  Thinking of Steve luring.  It's just funny. 


07/04/20 08:24 AM #18402    

 

Steve Keene

Hollis,

Makenzie came out yesterday and rode with me for a couple of hours.  Madison is coming Sunday.  Worked just like I thought.  Now we can hook my little boat behind it, and make a campsite down by the lake for overnight camping, too.  Mak borrowed my boat while she was here and took it to Lake Fork today!  She has to bring it back ....(yea)!  I am leaving Tuesday for Wyoming and South Dakota again to do some more serious trout fishing!  

Here is a video of an ATV like mine.  You don't have to watch the whole 19 minutes.




07/04/20 10:52 AM #18403    

 

David Cordell

This post in NextDoor in Plano made me very sad.

John Nwosu

This is not Satire, I am your Neighbor, a Blackman, who loves to run at 4am! Comment will be closed because this post is for announcement purposes only! I am your neighbor. My name is John Nwosu. I am a 6ft 2in tall approx. 200lbs Blackman. I am a husband to a wonderful woman. I am a father to two lovely children. I am paying member of my HOA. I am a member of my children's PTA. I am an attorney. I am an American. Besides my utmost love for my wonderful family and my love of being an attorney, I love to run. Running is my outlet. I usually go running in this neighborhood (my neighborhood) between the early morning hours of 4am and 6am (sometimes earlier than 4am). For safety reasons I always run facing oncoming traffic. On most mornings when I run, I usually run on the road (usually very few or no cars on the road during these early hours), and whenever I see a car coming, I always move onto the sidewalk. If you often come out this early, you may have seen me on one of my early morning runs. Every time I see our Plano police cars that patrol our neighborhood, I always without fail try to make eye contact and wave at the officer.

Today, 07/02/2020, I started my run at 4:45am. What prompted me to make this post is that while running down Hedgcoxe heading towards Coit Rd before Bent Tree Springs Dr, a white, late model sedan vehicle traveling towards Independence Blvd., looped back twice on Bent Tree Springs Dr. During the 1st loop, the vehicle traveled on the 1st lane closest to the sidewalk, and on the 2nd loop the same vehicle traveled on the 3rd lane farthest from the sidewalk. During each loop, the vehicle considerably slowed down as it got closer to passing me. It may probably be nothing, but my anxiety level shot up to high heaven today.

If not for the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, a Blackman who was out running in the State of Georgia on February 23, 2020, I would not have been anxious at all, or even considered making this post to let my neighbors know that I run in our neighborhood very early in the morning.

I am not asking you to sympathize with me. I am not asking you to understand my anxiety. I am not asking you to understand the anxiety of my lovely wife who is deprived of sleep each time I leave our home very early to go out and run. I am not a threat to you. I am not a threat to your family. I am not a threat to your property. With this post, all I am asking is that, if you see me running in your neighborhood, (my neighborhood), please DO NOT SHOOT ME! or Call the POLICE! All I want to do is run, and return to my wonderful family, ALIVE! Thank you for reading. With love, John Nwosu


07/04/20 12:02 PM #18404    

Debbie Cathey (Havens)

Very sad indeed. We all need to do better in seeing each
other as human beings created in the image of God. I hate it when my friends have shared that they must begin to train their sons when they are around 10 or 11 how to react if they are questioned by police for ANY reason. My friends who have adopted children from other racial backgrounds have had horrific encounters with hateful, prejudiced people. To respond with Christ like love is a true challenge. They handle it much better than I ever could. I still remember the fear in the eyes of two of the girls I befriended when RHS was integrated as well as ugly comments made to me for befriending them. I know we have progressed from that time but how sad to still see hatred in the hearts of so many now continuing to divide instead of unite.

07/04/20 12:49 PM #18405    

Jan Alexander

Steveo, You are bringing up old memories.. about Wyoming... boo hoo.

  I remember being able to drive over to either the Happy Jack area or the Snowy Range on July 4th and still finding a private , quiet camping site.  We would also take day trips over to the Snowy Range and over by Woods Landing where there is a dance hall out in the middle of nowhere………Would always wonder who came in the past for Saturday dancing?

Once my friend from Austin came up after her cancer treatments and on her bucket list was flying fishing.. She came dressed to a T in a flying fishing outfit .  None of us knew how to fly fish but at the end I went to the grocery store and bought a trout , we put it on the line and she had a wonderful picture in a stream by the Vedauwoos... smiling cheek to cheek.  

Once when my girlfriend and her husband came up to visit us from Dallas one winter, we thought it would be cool to take them to the Snowy Range to stay at a lodge /cabin outfit that was being rejuvenated . We got to the main road and they literally had to come out on snowmobiles to get us. So we left our car parked with bags on shoulders and arms on the backs of the hosts on snowmobiles. 

They took us to our cabin and we sat on beds that sank to the floor and the guy came in to light our woodstove built from old barrels... I laughed soooo hard when I looked over at my girlfriend's face full of shock and not really disappointment but not knowing what to think.  We had to cross country to the showers... So funny. That night I woke up screaming and felt like there was a ghost hovering over me from this old timey cabin.

laughOh ,South Dakota is still on my bucket list.

Vedauwoos:


07/04/20 01:25 PM #18406    

 

David Cordell

Lowell,

I think most of Steve's "luring" is done while fishing. 

Steve,

Martha and I -- Mount Rushmore in 2018. Note: it wasn't my intent to have our heads be larger in the frame than the Presidents'.

Also at nearby Crazy Horse Monument. I'm not sure if the carving of Crazy Horse is a desecration of Indian lands. I think President Trump missed an opportunity. He could have identified some willing Indian leaders to take him on a tour of that site. The museum is very interesting.

This is what is supposed to look like when finished.

Here's a brief video of the main hall of the museum.



 

Lance, this brief video is Hill City, SD, very near Mount Rushmore. Thought of you.



 


07/04/20 02:48 PM #18407    

 

Janalu Jeanes (Parchman)

We are flying our flag today with pride and gratefulness!

May we always have the wisdom and guidance we need to keep our sovereignty.

Our freedoms have not come to us without a tremendous cost, to be remembered always.

God Bless America!

 


07/04/20 05:36 PM #18408    

 

David Cordell

Janalu,

We have lots of flags plus a white ribbon for health care workers and a blue ribbon for police. (Note: ignore random placement of blue pots. We're in the middle of a landscaping project.)


07/04/20 05:44 PM #18409    

 

Hollis Carolyn Heyn

David:  Your trees look really pretty as does your home.  How's that pool out back?  I'm a member of our local JCC, aka  the J, where the outdoor pool has reopened.  Not feeling real secure about the locker room and even the chlorine laden pool, so no laps for me.  


07/04/20 06:00 PM #18410    

Kurt Fischer

One of the things my wife does every year with our grandchildren is to place two small American flags on either side of the sidewalks for our neighbors.  They do this for about a dozen houses.  Then they line the road passing in front of the firestation with these same flags.  This is for about a block.  I would guess they put out 40-50 flags.  It is always nice to drive up the street and see all of the flags.  Hopefully it is also a teaching moment for the kids.  They've done this for the past 6-8 years.


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